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kozak...@gate.maloca.com

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Sep 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/13/95
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What is an example of controlling an opponents creature but not his
enchanments cast on that creature (I believe the 4 ed. rulebook states that
you can do this but doesn't give an example)

Michael

Thalin

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Sep 13, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/13/95
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A creature (owned by opponent) with a control magic (yours) and a spirit link
(opponent's). When that creature does damage, your opponent gets life from the
spirit link, even though you control the creature. Or, for example, the spirit
link is a fire breathing. Your opponent is the only one who can pump mana into
the fire breathing because he still controls the enchantment, even though you
control the creature.

Thalin


giessen

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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kozak...@gate.maloca.com writes:

>Michael

With all *control target creature* spells you *CONTROL* the creature but
not the enchantments on the creature. All enchantment played on the stolen
creature are still controlled by the caster of those enchantments.

Martin


Mark Phaedrus

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Sep 14, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/14/95
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In article <436jrj$a...@gate.maloca.com>, <kozak...@gate.maloca.com> wrote:
>What is an example of controlling an opponents creature but not his
>enchanments cast on that creature (I believe the 4 ed. rulebook states that
>you can do this but doesn't give an example)

When a creature changes hands, any enchantments on that creature do not
change hands; they keep the same controller, even though the creature changes
controllers.
For example, let's say that I have Firebreathing on my White Knight.
You cast Control Magic on the White Knight; you are now the Knight's
controller. But I am still the controller of the Firebreathing. And since
the controller of a card is the only one who can choose to activate a card's
abilities (and pay the cost of doing so), I'm the only one who can use
Firebreathing to pump up the Knight; you can't, even though you're
controlling the Knight now.
Of course, some enchantments have effects that don't have to be
activated. For example, let's say that I had also cast Flight on that Knight
before you controlled it. I would still be the controller of the Flight as
well, but it won't really matter; the Knight will still have flying. (The
Flight enchantment doesn't have to be activated or paid for, and it doesn't
give its controller any choices to make, so it works the same regardless of
who controls it.)

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Marcel Rüedi

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Sep 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/21/95
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I have 6 Forest in play my opponent 2. If he gain control of my War Mammoth
with Aspect of Wolf on it does the Mammoth still get +3/+3 or +1/+1?

Michael Ronn Marcelais

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Sep 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/22/95
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My spies tell me that Marcel Rüedi (mru...@access.ch) wrote:


| I have 6 Forest in play my opponent 2. If he gain control of my War Mammoth
| with Aspect of Wolf on it does the Mammoth still get +3/+3 or +1/+1?

It gains +3/+3 since you still control the Aspect of Wolf and AoW says to
count your forests -- not the number of forests of the controller of the
creature.

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David DeLaney

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Sep 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/25/95
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mru...@access.ch (Marcel Rüedi) writes:
>I have 6 Forest in play my opponent 2. If he gain control of my War Mammoth
>with Aspect of Wolf on it does the Mammoth still get +3/+3 or +1/+1?

The Aspect of Wolf is controlled by you; there's no way to change this. It
counts up "your" forests, where "your" is its controller, which can't
change; this the Mammoth is +3/+3 from it no matter who controls the
*Mammoth* itself.

Dave
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