Lure vs Royal Assassin
Summer
chance to kill me with his royal assassin ( or other tap for fast
effect creature ) before the lure makes the creature block. One
rule says that a creature that is declared as a blocker can use a
fast effect, and if this happens the creatures recieves but does not
deal damage. So my question is, can the tapper tap before it is
declared as a blocker, and thus avoid the lure by using a fast
effect before blockers are declared.
Thank You
Eric Cole
K.E. Peterson
: Lets say I have a Lured Basilisk and I attack, does my nemesis get a
The defender has an opportunity to respond to your attack before he has
to declare blockers. He could, for instance, double lightning bolt your
basilisk which would kill it before it was able to do any damage. The
fast-effect of the royal assassin would resolve before the basilisk got
through, ergo the basilisk dies, and the defender suffers no loss.
Doug
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Quoting Summer<slb2 from a message in rec.games.trading-cards.magic.rules
>Lets say I have a Lured Basilisk and I attack, does my nemesis get a
>chance to kill me with his royal assassin ( or other tap for fast
>effect creature ) before the lure makes the creature block. One
Yes.. the royal assassin can strike in response to your declaration
of attackers.
THEN he must declare blockers .. but no lured Basilisk to block :).
Timing is the key.. if he declares blockers & then kills the
Basilisk, too late :(.
Greycat
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David Mann spare tunafish?????
Lance Druger
: Lets say I have a Lured Basilisk and I attack, does my nemesis get a
: effect creature ) before the lure makes the creature block. One
: fast effect, and if this happens the creatures recieves but does not
: deal damage. So my question is, can the tapper tap before it is
: declared as a blocker, and thus avoid the lure by using a fast
: effect before blockers are declared.
: Thank You
: Eric Cole
Somewhat confusing but here's how it works.
Tell oppenat you are attacking.
Fast effects
Declare and tap attackers
Fast effects
Declare blockers
Fast effects
So whatr happens here is you tap your basilisk, fine my assassin hurls a
dagger in his eye before hes even near enough to block.
Sorry the assassin wins.
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David DeLaney
>Lets say I have a Lured Basilisk and I attack, does my nemesis get a
>chance to kill me with his royal assassin ( or other tap for fast
>effect creature ) before the lure makes the creature block.
Well... his Royal Assassin can kill the _Basilisk_ before blockers
are declared, yes. [He can't kill _you_ with it then, because your
death-due-to-0-or-below-life isn't checked for until the attack ends...]
One
>rule says that a creature that is declared as a blocker can use a
>fast effect, and if this happens the creatures recieves but does not
>deal damage.
Nope. The rule says that if a blocker gets _tapped_ it recieves but does
not deal damage; there's nothing about "using a fast effect" there. Some
fast effects tap the cards that originate them; some don't.
So my question is, can the tapper tap before it is
>declared as a blocker, and thus avoid the lure by using a fast
>effect before blockers are declared.
Yes, this can also happen. There's a fast-effects step between "declare
attackers" and "declare blockers". Creatures that get tapped before blockers
are declared are then illegal to use as blockers [only untapped defending
creatures can block] and can't get Lured; _also_, if the Basilisk gets killed
before blockers are declared, the Lure will have left play before blockers
are declared and thus won't have any effect at that time. [And that's the
*only* time Lure has an effect; not before "declare blockers", and not after.]
Dave
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Stephen Boone
Summer <sl...@axe.humboldt.edu> wrote:
>Lets say I have a Lured Basilisk and I attack, does my nemesis get a
>chance to kill me with his royal assassin ( or other tap for fast
>effect creature ) before the lure makes the creature block. One
>rule says that a creature that is declared as a blocker can use a
>fast effect, and if this happens the creatures recieves but does not
>deal damage. So my question is, can the tapper tap before it is
>declared as a blocker, and thus avoid the lure by using a fast
>effect before blockers are declared.
>
>Thank You
>Eric Cole
Fast effects can be used at any time (well, basically). So do this:
A) I declare an attack
B) I indicate that my Thicket basilisk will be used to attack by
tapping it.
C) As a fast effect you tap your Roy to kill my now tapped Thicket
Baslilisk.
D) Declare blockers: nothing is attacking so you choose not to black
anything (can't really, unless I included other creatures in the
attack).
E) You give your Roy a large Christmas Bonus, and make a snide remark
in my direction.
In this way you don't have to worry about blocking the basilisk, or about
your Assassin dying. :)
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