Obsessive Search

Orgg99

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Jan 7, 2002, 11:52:32 PM1/7/02

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This new mechanic, "madness" from the next expansion, Torment, goes like this:

"Madness cards have an alternative casting cost for which they can be played as
they are being discarded. For example, Obsessive Search is an instant that lets
you draw a card for U. Inferior to Opt and Sleight of Hand? Perhaps, but it
also has a madness cost of U. Which means that if your opponent casts Ravenous
Rats or attacks you with Blazing Specter, you can regain card economy by
casting the Search as it is being discarded. You can combine madness cards with
Compulsion to produce various effects - such as draw extra cards as with
Obsessive Search, put a free creature into play, and more!" (From Sideboard)

Do I understand this correctly that I can discard Obsessive Search as payment
for Force of Will and pay its "madness" cost of U and draw a card? Thanks.

David DeLaney

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Jan 8, 2002, 12:25:41 AM1/8/02

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Orgg99 <org...@aol.com> wrote:
>Do I understand this correctly that I can discard Obsessive Search as payment
>for Force of Will and pay its "madness" cost of U and draw a card? Thanks.

No, because it's not possible to discard something while casting Force of Will
at all. (Read the card please.)

Dave
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Orgg99

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Jan 8, 2002, 12:43:02 AM1/8/02

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>No, because it's not possible to discard something while casting Force of
>Will
>at all. (Read the card please.)
>

LOL!!! Hoisted on my own petard!
(But at least I didn't go posting all the card info and text as I asked the
question.)

Jasper Overman

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Jan 8, 2002, 3:15:37 AM1/8/02

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Orgg99 <org...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Force of Will
3UU
Instant
You may pay 1 life and remove a blue card in your hand from the game rather
than pay Force of Will's mana cost.
Counter target spell.

No, because Force of Will lets you remove a card from the game, that's not
the same as discard.

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Olaf Krzikalla

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Jan 8, 2002, 6:16:18 AM1/8/02

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Hi,

Orgg99 wrote:
> Do I understand this correctly that I can discard Obsessive Search as payment
> for Force of Will and pay its "madness" cost of U and draw a card? Thanks.

Take another try and ask about Foil instead of FoW. Then you'll get the
answer: yes, why not?

Cheers,
Olaf

Orgg99

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Jan 8, 2002, 9:18:14 AM1/8/02

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>Take another try and ask about Foil instead of FoW. Then you'll get the
>answer: yes, why not?

Uh, yeah.... didn't I say "Foil"?
I meant to say "Foil".

(Thanks)

Andy Jakcsy

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Jan 9, 2002, 2:48:51 AM1/9/02

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Do I understand this correctly that I can discard Obsessive Search as payment
for Force of Will and pay its "madness" cost of U and draw a card? Thanks.

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I don't believe so, since FoW removes a card in the hand from the game, which I
don't believe is the same as discarding. I could be wrong, though...