Candelabra Combo--Legal? [Stupid question]
fuegi thomas
: ... you take a Candelabra of
: Tawnos, which to my understanding is a [1] cost artifact with a special
: ability of [1] untap target land, permanent, something like that... so
It's actually X: Untap X lands. (But it's a Mono artifact so
see below).
: anyway, if you pull a forest, wild growth, and a candelabra on the first
: turn then you have unlimited mana... play the forest and tap it for wild
: growth... next turn (or maybe this turn, dunno, it's late and I'm not
: visualising too well) you tap the land and cast the candelabra and then
: untap the land to relieve mana burn... then you can tap the land again and
: so on... is this legal? I would think so, but I am just checking....
: thanks. :)
It doesn't work. The Candelabra is a Mono artifact which translates
in today's notation to a tap symbol on its activation cost, so it effectively
reads X,T: Untap X lands. This means you'd need to be able to untap it as
well for a constant amount of mana using a permanent without T as part of
its cost. I can't think of any such card at the moment.
The Candelabra is still a great card for mana colouring, generating
mana with mana flares or Urza's Lands (or wild growth as you mentioned),
making Power Surge hurt your opponent more than you and preventing mana burns.
Bear in mind that it doesn't operate at interrupt speed so you need
to use it beforehand if you're trying to generate mana for a spell. Not
usually a big problem though.
Tom Fuegi.
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before... my friend just came up with a combo that he says he figured out
himself... probably been discovered before... but you take a Candelabra of
Tawnos, which to my understanding is a [1] cost artifact with a special
ability of [1] untap target land, permanent, something like that... so
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Candelabra is a Mono Artifact, which means it can only be used once per
per round. (They later changed artifacts to the way they are now, where
it has the tap symbol)
Shawn Ridenour
Brent Burkholder
>Alright, I know this is probably a stupid question and has been asked
>before... my friend just came up with a combo that he says he figured out
>himself... probably been discovered before... but you take a Candelabra of
>Tawnos, which to my understanding is a [1] cost artifact with a special
>ability of [1] untap target land, permanent, something like that... so
>anyway, if you pull a forest, wild growth, and a candelabra on the first
>turn then you have unlimited mana... play the forest and tap it for wild
>growth... next turn (or maybe this turn, dunno, it's late and I'm not
>visualising too well) you tap the land and cast the candelabra and then
>untap the land to relieve mana burn... then you can tap the land again and
>so on... is this legal? I would think so, but I am just checking....
>thanks. :)
The candalabra is a mono-artifact. Read this as meaning it taps when used.
So, your friend can only untap X lands once per turn (or more if he twiddles
it I suppose.) in the case of 1 forest + 1 wild growth, he'd tap the forest
to get GG, use 1 to untap the forest (G left in pool), and then tap the forest
again to get GGG... not all that hot. :) It shines when you've got a particular
land you want to untap (say a Maze of Ith), need a certain color of mana, or
have a Mana Flare in play.
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>Alright, I know this is probably a stupid question and has been asked
>before... my friend just came up with a combo that he says he figured out
>himself... probably been discovered before... but you take a Candelabra of
>Tawnos, which to my understanding is a [1] cost artifact with a special
>ability of [1] untap target land, permanent, something like that... so
>anyway, if you pull a forest, wild growth, and a candelabra on the first
>turn then you have unlimited mana... play the forest and tap it for wild
>growth... next turn (or maybe this turn, dunno, it's late and I'm not
>visualising too well) you tap the land and cast the candelabra and then
>untap the land to relieve mana burn... then you can tap the land again and
>so on... is this legal? I would think so, but I am just checking....
>thanks. :)
>
The CoT is:
X, T: Untap X target lands.
It's a monoartifact.
Dan Nelson
Scott Vanderau