Nevinyrral's Disk and Centaur Glade
Bill Fitch
Are these destroyed in the oder as stated on the card? Reason being is
that a freind was wondering if as an instant as the disk's effects
were occuring, whether he could make a couple of Centaurs between the
point of where the creatures and the enchantments are destroyed,
having a couple of Centaurs on the board after the disk resolved.
Thanks
Bill
Gandalf
No. This effect destroys all those types of permanents at ONCE. It means,
that even if your friend try to create some tokens, he can do it after the
ability from this is put on the stack. His ability from Glade will go on
stack then and will resolve as first (LIFO queue). Then Disk's ability.
To be clear - ther is no possibility to do anything during whole aility from
Disk resolve.
Gandalf
Zoe Stephenson
> Nev's Disk: (Tap): Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments.
That's not quite correct:
Nevinyrral's Disk {4} Artifact
Nevinyrral's Disk comes into play tapped.
{1}, {T}: Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments.
> Are these destroyed in the oder as stated on the card?
I believe they're all destroyed simultaneously. However, that isn't
a relevant fact in answering the actual question:
> Reason being is
> that a freind was wondering if as an instant as the disk's effects
> were occuring, whether he could make a couple of Centaurs between the
> point of where the creatures and the enchantments are destroyed,
> having a couple of Centaurs on the board after the disk resolved.
Players do not have priority to play spells and abilities during
resolution. The disk's effects all occur as part of its resolution.
It begins when both players pass with the disk's ability as the top
item on the stack, and it ends after all of the artifacts, creatures
and enchantments are destroyed. Only then will the active player
get priority to play spells and abilities again. So, you either use
the Centaur Glade ability before the Disk ability resolves, but the
Centaurs all die, or you wait, but then the Disk has taken the Glade
away.
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-- zoe
Lee Sharpe
No, they are all destroyed simultaneously. However, even if they *were*
destroyed in this order, you can't play abilities (such as that of Centaur
Glade) in the middle of the resolution of an effect.
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Josh Sanders
If you controlled both, however, this could work. Put a couple of
Centaurs on the stack, then blow the disc before they resolve. A cute
little trick...
David DeLaney
>Nev's Disk: (Tap): Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and enchantments.
>
>Are these destroyed in the oder as stated on the card?
Nope; they're all destroyed at once. To give an order to the destructions
it would have to state them in separate sentences or clauses - "Destroy
all artifacts. Destroy all creatures. Destroy all enchantments.", for
example.
>Reason being is
>that a freind was wondering if as an instant as the disk's effects
>were occuring, whether he could make a couple of Centaurs between the
>point of where the creatures and the enchantments are destroyed,
Nope. Nobody gets to do ANYTHING during this resolution, other than what
it tells you to. Nobody has priority while a spell or ability is resolving
(or being announced).
Centaur Glade won't help you here; any Centaurs it makes in response to
the Disk's ability will get destroyed, it's not around to use after the
Disk's ability is done resolving, and there's no way at all to "use it
while the Disk's effect is being done"...
Dave
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Dennis Daiber
> Centaur Glade won't help you here; any Centaurs it makes in response to
> the Disk's ability will get destroyed, it's not around to use after the
> Disk's ability is done resolving, and there's no way at all to "use it
> while the Disk's effect is being done"...
So... Activating the Glade a couple of times and THEN acitvating the disc
would clear the board, but I'd have some Centaurs left after the whole stack
had been worked to the bottom?
/Denn!s
Zoe Stephenson
I think this was covered elsewhere in this discussion, but yes, certainly.
As long as the Glade's ability resolves after the Disk's ability, then
the Centaurs will get to stick around. This is usually done by activating
the Glade ability, then responding to it while it's still on the stack.
Even though the enchantment will be destroyed by the Disk's ability before
those Glade abilities resolve, they still work - they're independent of
their source.
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-- zoe
Lee Sharpe
Yes, this will work. Of course, I do believe the in original scenario the
opponent controlled the disc, in which case you couldn't create any Centaurs
once he placed the ability on the stack that would surive through it.
Are K. Saxrud
Yes, that is correct.
David DeLaney
Yep. The Disk destroys the artifacts, creatures, and enchantments that
are in play when its ability resolves (usually including the Disk itself,
though not always). It does nothing to abilities waiting on the stack,
under the Disk ability, to resolve, whether or not those abilities will
later produce a Centaur, or allow you to put a creature card into play
from your hand, or whatever.