Squee & Masticore??
The Warners
your g/yard, can you order the stack so you can return him to your hand and
then discard him to pay for Masticore's upkeep? Similarly if Squee's in your
hand can you discard him for the Masticore, and then return him to your hand
that same upkeep?
Or am I just clutching at straws here?
SQUEE, GOBLIN NABOB
2R
Creature - Goblin Legend
1/1
At the beginning of your upkeep, if Squee, Goblin Nabob is in your
graveyard, you may return Squee to your hand.
MASTICORE
4
Artifact Creature
4/4
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may discard a card from your hand. If
you don't, sacrifice Masticore.
2: Masticore deals 1 damage to target creature.
2: Regenerate Masticore.
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Laurie Warner
**war...@southwest.com.au
chris_dua...@my-deja.com
"The Warners" <war...@southwest.com.au> wrote:
> I have a question regarding Squee, Goblin Nabob and Masticore. If
> Squee's in your g/yard, can you order the stack so you can return him
> to your hand and then discard him to pay for Masticore's upkeep?
Yes. Order Squee's return-to-hand ability on top of Masticore's upkeep
cost, then let it resolve. Squee comes back, then you drop him for
Masticore's cost.
> Similarly if Squee's in your hand can you discard him for the
> Masticore, and then return him to your hand that same upkeep?
> Or am I just clutching at straws here?
>
No, that way round doesn't work. All beginning of upkeep effects are
loaded onto the stack at the start of your upkeep; any others have to
wait til the next beginning of upkeep. Sorry .
Chris Dual Lansdell
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Before you buy.
Michael Kastberg
>If Squee's in your g/yard, can you order the stack so you can return
him to your hand and then discard him to pay for Masticore's upkeep?
<
Yes. Start out by putting the upkeep to Masticore on the stack, then
put the return on squee on the stack. Let the return of Squee resolve
and put it into your hand. When the upkeep to Masticore resolves,
choose to discard Squee to Masticore.
--
Take care,
Michael Kastberg
Law Student, University of Copenhagen
Kast...@vip.cybercity.dk
Ingo Warnke
: I have a question regarding Squee, Goblin Nabob and Masticore. If Squee's in
: your g/yard, can you order the stack so you can return him to your hand and
: hand can you discard him for the Masticore, and then return him to your hand
: that same upkeep?
The first idea works, the second doesn't.
In your first scenario, when you start your upkeep with Squee in grave and
Masticore in play, 2 abilities trigger: Squee's and Masticore's. You put
Masticore's on the stack first, Squee's second.
Due to LIFO, Squee's ability resolves first and returns itself to your hand.
Then Masticore's ability resolves and you may chose the 'discard a card'-
option by discarding Squee.
In the second scenario, only Masticore's ability triggers. You can discard
the Squee to it, but since we are already after the 'beginning of upkeep'
in this turn, Squee will not return this turn.
: Laurie Warner
If you haven't read this group in a while, you might find the following
question strange, and of course you don't have to answer it:
What is your gender?
Ingo Warnke
Michael Kastberg
>What is your gender?<
C'mon on Ingo, not even I is that desperate for getting a date :P
David Weinlick
male...
Does anyone know a Laurie who is female who plays Magic?
Is there something in our cultural heritage that drives male Lauries to play
Magic?
The Warners wrote:
> I'm male.
>
> Ingo Warnke <nfa...@cks1.rz.uni-rostock.de> wrote in message
>
> > : Laurie Warner
> >
> > If you haven't read this group in a while, you might find the following
> > question strange, and of course you don't have to answer it:
> >
> > What is your gender?
> >
> > Ingo Warnke
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David Weinlick
> I have a question regarding Squee, Goblin Nabob and Masticore. If Squee's in
> your g/yard, can you order the stack so you can return him to your hand and
> then discard him to pay for Masticore's upkeep?
Yes, you can do this. You should place the Masticore's upkeep on the stack
first, then Squee's. They will resolve LIFO, and Squee will return to your
hand in time to pay the upkeep of Masticore.
> Similarly if Squee's in your
> hand can you discard him for the Masticore, and then return him to your hand
> that same upkeep?
No, you cannot do this. Squee's ability will never trigger, because he is not
in the graveyard. You will have to discard him and wait until next turn to
retrieve him. He'll stay there in hopes that your opponent doesn't play with
that killer rare out of Destiny--Rapid Decay.
> SQUEE, GOBLIN NABOB
> 2R
> Creature - Goblin Legend
> 1/1
> At the beginning of your upkeep, if Squee, Goblin Nabob is in your
> graveyard, you may return Squee to your hand.
>
> MASTICORE
> 4
> Artifact Creature
> 4/4
> At the beginning of your upkeep, you may discard a card from your hand. If
> you don't, sacrifice Masticore.
> 2: Masticore deals 1 damage to target creature.
> 2: Regenerate Masticore.
--
David DeLaney
>I have a question regarding Squee, Goblin Nabob and Masticore. If Squee's in
>your g/yard, can you order the stack so you can return him to your hand and
>then discard him to pay for Masticore's upkeep?
Yes, you can.
>Similarly if Squee's in your
>hand can you discard him for the Masticore, and then return him to your hand
>that same upkeep?
No, you cannot.
The difference?
Both abilities trigger at the beginning of upkeep; the Masticore's if it's
in play then, and Squee's if it's in your -graveyard- then. If both are
in those places, you can order the two as you like ... so can put Squee's
ability on top of the Masticore's, and get Squee back before you have to
discard-or-sac. So the first half of the question works fine.
But if Squee is -not- in your graveyard when your upkeep starts, his
ability simply doesn't trigger; getting him into your graveyard -during-
your upkeep isn't going to get him there in time, since "during your
upkeep" is always after "at the beginning of your upkeep". So the second
half of the question doesn't work, because if Squee gets discarded -during-
your upkeep, he can't trigger until your -next- upkeep starts.
Dave
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Orgg99
>>What is your gender?<
>
>C'mon on Ingo, not even I is that desperate for getting a date :P
>
Hey, maybe now he's more excited than
ever. Or maybe Ingo is female, like the
famous actresses, Ingo Bergman and
Ingo Stevens (The Farmer's Daughter).
Laurie Cheers
>
> I'm just curious, since we have now realized that the two Laurie's
> among us are male...
>
> Does anyone know a Laurie who is female who plays Magic?
Actually, I don't know any other Lauries at all...
--
Laurie Cheers (lrc...@york.ac.uk)
Only fools can't see
the emperor's new .sig:
The Warners
Ingo Warnke <nfa...@cks1.rz.uni-rostock.de> wrote in message
news:3821...@news.uni-rostock.de...
> The Warners (war...@southwest.com.au) wrote:
> : I have a question regarding Squee, Goblin Nabob and Masticore. If
Squee's in
> : your g/yard, can you order the stack so you can return him to your hand
and
> : then discard him to pay for Masticore's upkeep? Similarly if Squee's in
your
> : hand can you discard him for the Masticore, and then return him to your
hand
> : that same upkeep?
>
> The first idea works, the second doesn't.
>
> In your first scenario, when you start your upkeep with Squee in grave and
> Masticore in play, 2 abilities trigger: Squee's and Masticore's. You put
> Masticore's on the stack first, Squee's second.
>
> Due to LIFO, Squee's ability resolves first and returns itself to your
hand.
> Then Masticore's ability resolves and you may chose the 'discard a card'-
> option by discarding Squee.
>
> In the second scenario, only Masticore's ability triggers. You can discard
> the Squee to it, but since we are already after the 'beginning of upkeep'
> in this turn, Squee will not return this turn.
>
Steve Lord
> Ingo Warnke <nfa...@cks1.rz.uni-rostock.de> wrote:
>
> >What is your gender?<
>
> C'mon on Ingo, not even I is that desperate for getting a date :P
ROFL Mic. BTW, I think it's "not even I am that desperate".
Steve L
Michael Kastberg
>: >What is your gender?<
: C'mon on Ingo, not even I is that desperate for getting a date :P
>I certainly wouldn't try to get a date this way
Yeah, right... (They all says so...) *grin*
Ingo Warnke
: Ingo Warnke <nfa...@cks1.rz.uni-rostock.de> wrote:
: >What is your gender?<
: C'mon on Ingo, not even I is that desperate for getting a date :P
I certainly wouldn't try to get a date this way with a person that (considering
its email adress) lives on the other side of the earth from me.
I know that it is often impossible to tell someone's gender from his/her
first name if it is in a foreign language. That's even more true if you use
shortened forms. For example, both my father Ulrich (male, what a surprise :-)
and a female friend Ulrike are called 'Uli' by their friends.
Laurie seems to be a similiar case, as even the native English speakers didn't
thought it strange for a woman to have that name. So I just wanted to find
out if maybe Laurie Warner was female, supporting my views on names.
Ingo Warnke
Orgg99
I remember a Canadian hockey player
who was pretty good by the name of
Laurie Boschman (sp?). Played on a line with Brian Propp in the minors.