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Nev. Disk Ruling - No Sacrifice?

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de...@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu

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Dec 7, 1994, 1:16:56 AM12/7/94
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I read in another area that the rules team ahs stated that Nev.'s Disk
no lonnger sacrifices itself and can now be the target of Reconstructions and
Hurkel's recall etc. Is this true??? If so I need to put another one in my
deck.
Thanks. Please e-mail response.

Jeff Deane

Tom Wylie

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Dec 7, 1994, 4:01:18 PM12/7/94
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Yes, the ruling on the Disk has reversed, and it is considered to be simply
reminding the user that it's destroyed along with all the other artifacts
in play. This means you can respond to it by yanking it out of play with
Hurkyl's Recall, among other things. It was always possible to Reconstruct
it later.


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Michael G Schmahl

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Dec 9, 1994, 9:25:30 PM12/9/94
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Tom Wylie (aa...@hal.COM) wrote:
: Yes, the ruling on the Disk has reversed, and it is considered to be simply

: reminding the user that it's destroyed along with all the other artifacts
: in play. This means you can respond to it by yanking it out of play with
: Hurkyl's Recall, among other things. It was always possible to Reconstruct
: it later.

Does this apply to Chaos Orb as well?

Lutz Hofmann

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Dec 10, 1994, 12:32:09 PM12/10/94
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In article <3c57qu$k...@perv.hal.com>, Tom Wylie <aa...@hal.COM> wrote:
>Yes, the ruling on the Disk has reversed,

Is there a reason why Nevinyrral's Disk is treated special, unlike all
other 'self-sacrificing' artifacts?

Bye the way is there a reason why copycards have their own targetrule?

Are these two things ERRATA to the cards, because that was the original
intent or is it a simple ruling?

Yours SIncerely Lutz Hofmann
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Trevor Barrie

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Dec 9, 1994, 1:53:46 PM12/9/94
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l...@cs.tu-berlin.de (Lutz Hofmann) writes:

>Is there a reason why Nevinyrral's Disk is treated special, unlike all
>other 'self-sacrificing' artifacts?

Because it doesn't specifically say that it is placed in the graveyard when
used. It just says that it's not immune to its' own effect. Subtle difference.

>Bye the way is there a reason why copycards have their own targetrule?

Apparently, somebody on the design team felt that the targetting rules weren't
quite complicayed enough.:\


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David DeLaney

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Dec 11, 1994, 12:36:04 AM12/11/94
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No. Nor does it apply to Lotus, Bottle, etc. It is a specific ruling reversal
for the Disk only. All other tcards from pre-Revised which need to have their
wording changed to "sacrifice card when used" still are sacrifices.

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Jonathan K. Conway

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Dec 12, 1994, 7:26:39 PM12/12/94
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Does this mean that Rust is no longer as useful against
the Disk (i.e. do you have to destroy it as well as stopping
the activation to prevent re-use?)? If so it just became
significantly harder to deal with. Multi-card combos should
still handle it, but the ruling does make life easier for the
Disk/WoG/Safe Haven types.
Anyone have ideas why this particular ruling reversal
was mawa? The only thing that owcurs to me is that the design
team wants to make sure that the "save your ass" uses aren't
blocked quite so easily.

Jonathan Conway

Tom Wylie

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Dec 15, 1994, 12:18:24 AM12/15/94
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Jonathan K. Conway <con...@cco.caltech.edu> wrote:
> Does this mean that Rust is no longer as useful against
>the Disk (i.e. do you have to destroy it as well as stopping
>the activation to prevent re-use?)?...

Rust will be useful against the Disk, but the Disk will still be there
to be used another turn, yes.

> Anyone have ideas why this particular ruling reversal was [made]?

Because we decided the Disk was just reminding everyone that it, too,
would be destroyed.

Tom Wylie

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Dec 15, 1994, 2:01:57 AM12/15/94
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Lutz Hofmann <l...@cs.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>Is there a reason why Nevinyrral's Disk is treated special, unlike all
>other 'self-sacrificing' artifacts?

Basically because it doesn't specifically say it's destroyed when used;
the text is considered to simply remind the players that the Disk will
be destroyed along with any other artifacts.

>Bye the way is there a reason why copycards have their own targetrule?

Basically because that's how the design team thinks they should work.

>Are these two things ERRATA to the cards, because that was the original
>intent or is it a simple ruling?

It's not errata to the Disk, it's what is now considered the correct
interpretation. Almost any ruling about copy cards is errata and/or
addenda to those cards.

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