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Michael John Falkner

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Jul 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/7/96
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Terry Bore defeats Paul McCabe 3 games to 2 to win the juniors title at PT3.

Both played similar RWG Stormbind decks...

Nationals next.

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Michael Jason Lewis

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Jul 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/7/96
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In article <4rouh9$u...@uwm.edu>,

Michael John Falkner <mfal...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu> wrote:
}Terry Bore defeats Paul McCabe 3 games to 2 to win the juniors title at PT3.
}
}Both played similar RWG Stormbind decks...

So were any Alliances cards other than Ivory Gargoyles being used by the top
decks? (How did the Browse/Digger decks do?)

- Mike
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Stanford produce a lot of the people who go on to screw up the world."
-- Stanford Daily, Feb. 16, 1996

IQJeff

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On the Pro Tour...alot of the LA players were using Browse, but
Red/White/Green dominated the scene. The two cards that I saw the most?
Thawing Glaciers and Kjeldoran Outpost. As I walked around checking out
all the matches, it was very rare to see a match that didn't have at least
one Thawing Glaciers on at least one side of the table. Without Strip
Mines and Armageddons, it rules!

The Kjeldoran Outpost was also VERY popular, and it obliterated the
Blue/White defensive decks. Jokulhaups/Ivory Gargoyle was another
favorite...three of the decks in the Juniors final four supported this
combo.

Overall, there was some interesting stuff, but it wasn't nearly as
interesting as the Nationals Finals - there was a G/W Armageddon
deck...with no creatures (save Titania's Song), two Stasis decks...with no
white cards other than Kismets and Land Tax, and of course the champion
deck...a red/black Necro deck with NO Disks or Drain Life's in either the
main deck or the sideboard. The final four were pretty distinct, to say
the least.

Jeff Hannes
Games Editor, InQuest Magazine
IQJ...@aol.com

Chris Otwell

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Jul 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/8/96
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Why are we not being given a Video Tape of the event??

Chris


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Daniel M Gray

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iqj...@aol.com (IQJeff) writes:

>On the Pro Tour...alot of the LA players were using Browse, but
>Red/White/Green dominated the scene. The two cards that I saw the most?
>Thawing Glaciers and Kjeldoran Outpost. As I walked around checking out
>all the matches, it was very rare to see a match that didn't have at least
>one Thawing Glaciers on at least one side of the table. Without Strip
>Mines and Armageddons, it rules!

Correction-- some of the LA players and all but one of the San Diego
players were playing U/W Browse/Digger decks. Lots of non-Californians were
playing them as well. The most popular deck types were probably R/W(usually
with Jokulhaups, Gargoyle, Blinking, DD, and the "Dude Ranch"), U/W, and
R/G/b(what the PCL Team, who all played the deck dubbed "BugBind"-- Stormbind,
Woolly Spiders, Giant Trap Door Spiders, Deadly Insect, Mind Warp, and some
other stuff). Probably the best-constructed of the U/W Browse/Digger decks was
the one played by Brian Hacker(from San Diego).
Surprisingly, there were some Necro-based decks that did well,
including a monoblack one run by Dave Dittmer, and a B/W one run by Brian
Weissman & John Immordino(all three of them finished in the top 16).

>The Kjeldoran Outpost was also VERY popular, and it obliterated the
>Blue/White defensive decks. Jokulhaups/Ivory Gargoyle was another
>favorite...three of the decks in the Juniors final four supported this
>combo.

In order, by my count(I was one of the judges at both PT3 &
Nationals), the most popular cards were Kjeldoran Outpost, Thawing Glaciers,
Blinking Spirit, and Jester's Cap, roughly in that order. Also plenty of
Gargoyles, Jokulhaups, Icys, Pillages, white removal, direct damage, and
Deadly Insects.

>Overall, there was some interesting stuff, but it wasn't nearly as
>interesting as the Nationals Finals - there was a G/W Armageddon
>deck...with no creatures (save Titania's Song), two Stasis decks...with no
>white cards other than Kismets and Land Tax, and of course the champion
>deck...a red/black Necro deck with NO Disks or Drain Life's in either the
>main deck or the sideboard. The final four were pretty distinct, to say
>the least.

The top 16 from Nationals was truly more diverse than I thought it
would be. By a count made by Beth Moursund and Jeff Lin, there were 44
Necrodecks out of the 122 players. The top 4 were:

1. Dennis Bentley
B/r Necro with Bolts, a single Fireball, 1 Shatter, 12 knights, and no
Disks. Definitely not standard Necro.

2. George Baxter
W/Artifacts/u/g Titania's Song/Winter Orb deck with Fellwars, Serrated
Arrows, the white removal pack(StP, Disenchant, Balance, & WoG), Factories and
some other stuff. Probably the most interesting deck at the tournament.

3/4. Mike Long
U/w/b/artifact TurboStasis with Kismet, Howlers, Arcane Denial, Force
of Will, Lim-Dul's Vault, and Boomerang.

3/4. Matt Place
U/w/b/artifact TurboStasis almost identical to Long's deck.

The rest of the top 16:
Pete Leiher
Standard monoblack Necro(defeated by Baxter in the quarters).

Mike Dove
U/W TurboStasis, similar to Long's & Place's decks, but without
Lim-Dul's Vault(defeated by Baxter in the round of 16)

Bruce Swiney
Standard monoblack Necro

Derik Mortimer
Standard monoblack Necro

Mark Justice
B/w Necro with enough white for Balance and some Disenchants

Kevin(?) Adams
R/W more or less standard stop-it-all type deck that I didn't look at
too carefully.

Chris Gross
R/W

Brendon Herzog
Standard monoblack Necro(and the only 4-2 match record player to make
the top 16).

Adam Green
G/W/R creatures/direct damage/white removal deck. Adam was,
unfortunately, disqualified at the round of 16 when it was discovered his deck
only had 59 cards. It was an honest mistake, but rules are rules.

Jason Zila
G/W Erhnams, white removal, Armageddon, Dervishes, Sylvan Library.
Basically Erhnageddon with a few twists thrown in.

Travis Thomas
G/W as well. I didn't get to look too closely at this deck.

Rick Latham
R/G Erhnam'n'Burn 'Em with Elvish Rangers, Dervishes, Sylvan,
Primitive Justice, Pillage, Erhnams, and a bunch of DD.

I've got exact listings of all but two of these decks, but I'm not
going to post them to the net without permission from their creators.

Dan Gray

David Hyon

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Jul 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/9/96
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In article <dgray.836861761@merle>, dg...@merle.acns.nwu.edu says...

>
>iqj...@aol.com (IQJeff) writes:
>
>>On the Pro Tour...alot of the LA players were using Browse, but
>>Red/White/Green dominated the scene. The two cards that I saw the most?
>>Thawing Glaciers and Kjeldoran Outpost. As I walked around checking out
>>all the matches, it was very rare to see a match that didn't have at least
>>one Thawing Glaciers on at least one side of the table. Without Strip
>>Mines and Armageddons, it rules!
>
> Correction-- some of the LA players and all but one of the San Diego
>players were playing U/W Browse/Digger decks. Lots of non-Californians were
>playing them as well. The most popular deck types were probably R/W(usually
>with Jokulhaups, Gargoyle, Blinking, DD, and the "Dude Ranch"), U/W, and
>R/G/b(what the PCL Team, who all played the deck dubbed "BugBind"-- Stormbind,
>Woolly Spiders, Giant Trap Door Spiders, Deadly Insect, Mind Warp, and some
>other stuff). Probably the best-constructed of the U/W Browse/Digger decks was
>the one played by Brian Hacker(from San Diego).
All of these decks were tested to beat the WGR Jokulhaups, Blinking
Spirit, DD, Stormbind style decks. They proved very vulnerable to other types
of decks and did not do well.

> Surprisingly, there were some Necro-based decks that did well,
>including a monoblack one run by Dave Dittmer, and a B/W one run by Brian
>Weissman & John Immordino(all three of them finished in the top 16).
>
A very strong deck. I play-tested against it but I decided it would be
too difficult to beat a well constructed Jokulhaups deck. It did though using
Mind Warp.

>>The Kjeldoran Outpost was also VERY popular, and it obliterated the
>>Blue/White defensive decks. Jokulhaups/Ivory Gargoyle was another
>>favorite...three of the decks in the Juniors final four supported this
>>combo.
>
> In order, by my count(I was one of the judges at both PT3 &
>Nationals), the most popular cards were Kjeldoran Outpost, Thawing Glaciers,
>Blinking Spirit, and Jester's Cap, roughly in that order. Also plenty of
>Gargoyles, Jokulhaups, Icys, Pillages, white removal, direct damage, and
>Deadly Insects.
>
>>Overall, there was some interesting stuff, but it wasn't nearly as
>>interesting as the Nationals Finals - there was a G/W Armageddon
>>deck...with no creatures (save Titania's Song), two Stasis decks...with no
>>white cards other than Kismets and Land Tax, and of course the champion
>>deck...a red/black Necro deck with NO Disks or Drain Life's in either the
>>main deck or the sideboard. The final four were pretty distinct, to say
>>the least.
I am proud to say that I was one of the turbo-stasis deck players. What
a wonderful deck. Totally full of crud but worked so well. It had no creature
defense or artifact defense except the stasis. It destroyed typical Necro decks
over 80% of the time. I personally beat both Mario Robina and Adam Maysonet who
were playing Necro. How amazing...

>
> The top 16 from Nationals was truly more diverse than I thought it
>would be. By a count made by Beth Moursund and Jeff Lin, there were 44
>Necrodecks out of the 122 players. The top 4 were:
>
>1. Dennis Bentley
> B/r Necro with Bolts, a single Fireball, 1 Shatter, 12 knights, and no
>Disks. Definitely not standard Necro.
>
>2. George Baxter
> W/Artifacts/u/g Titania's Song/Winter Orb deck with Fellwars, Serrated
>Arrows, the white removal pack(StP, Disenchant, Balance, & WoG), Factories and
>some other stuff. Probably the most interesting deck at the tournament.
>
>3/4. Mike Long
> U/w/b/artifact TurboStasis with Kismet, Howlers, Arcane Denial, Force
>of Will, Lim-Dul's Vault, and Boomerang.
>
>3/4. Matt Place
> U/w/b/artifact TurboStasis almost identical to Long's deck.
>
>The rest of the top 16:
>Pete Leiher
> Standard monoblack Necro(defeated by Baxter in the quarters).
>
>Mike Dove
> U/W TurboStasis, similar to Long's & Place's decks, but without
>Lim-Dul's Vault(defeated by Baxter in the round of 16)
Get out of here. I hope all of your info isnt as innaccurate. I was
playing with the Vaults. They were very integral to the deck. I constructed the
deck at 10:00 am right before Nationals with Long's and Place's help. We were
running around collecting things like wall of airs and zephyr falcons and a
third despotic scepter. I thank anyone who donated cards to our decks. That was
the most fun deck to play in a major tournament to date for me. It wiped the
ground with Necro decks. Bentleys land destruction got Place down though...

>
>Bruce Swiney
> Standard monoblack Necro
>
>Derik Mortimer
> Standard monoblack Necro
>
>Mark Justice
> B/w Necro with enough white for Balance and some Disenchants
>
>Kevin(?) Adams
> R/W more or less standard stop-it-all type deck that I didn't look at
>too carefully.
>
>Chris Gross
> R/W
>
>Brendon Herzog
> Standard monoblack Necro(and the only 4-2 match record player to make
>the top 16).
>
>Adam Green
> G/W/R creatures/direct damage/white removal deck. Adam was,
>unfortunately, disqualified at the round of 16 when it was discovered his deck
>only had 59 cards. It was an honest mistake, but rules are rules.
>
>Jason Zila
> G/W Erhnams, white removal, Armageddon, Dervishes, Sylvan Library.
>Basically Erhnageddon with a few twists thrown in.
>
Damn did Zilla get screwed or what. He lost to Bentley because Bentley
played four strips in a row after a first turn vise (just like when I played
him???)

>Travis Thomas
> G/W as well. I didn't get to look too closely at this deck.
>
>Rick Latham
> R/G Erhnam'n'Burn 'Em with Elvish Rangers, Dervishes, Sylvan,
>Primitive Justice, Pillage, Erhnams, and a bunch of DD.
>
> I've got exact listings of all but two of these decks, but I'm not
>going to post them to the net without permission from their creators.
>
> Dan Gray
>

Go ahead and print mine (Mike Doves) but dont forget about my Lim Duls
Vaults which I did play with.

Michael W. Dove

Michael John Falkner

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David Hyon (dh...@ucla.edu) wrote:

: >Adam Green


: > G/W/R creatures/direct damage/white removal deck. Adam was,
: >unfortunately, disqualified at the round of 16 when it was discovered his deck
: >only had 59 cards. It was an honest mistake, but rules are rules.

How did he get THAT far with only 59 cards?

: >
: >Jason Zila


: > G/W Erhnams, white removal, Armageddon, Dervishes, Sylvan Library.
: >Basically Erhnageddon with a few twists thrown in.
: >
: Damn did Zilla get screwed or what. He lost to Bentley because Bentley
: played four strips in a row after a first turn vise (just like when I played
: him???)

GOD, did Bentley get some good draws or what??

He got all four of his Dark Rituals up in his first game, and had a 13 point
fireball to give to Baxter.

Morrie Mullins

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mfal...@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (Michael John Falkner) wrote:
>David Hyon (dh...@ucla.edu) wrote:

<snip>

>: Damn did Zilla get screwed or what. He lost to Bentley because Bentley

>: played four strips in a row after a first turn vise

<snip>

>GOD, did Bentley get some good draws or what??
>
>He got all four of his Dark Rituals up in his first game, and had a 13 >point fireball to give to Baxter.

One thing I learned quickly from Dennis: To win tournaments, it takes
more than skill. It takes LUCK. And if you can capitalize on luck when
you design your deck, do it. IE, I've only played Dennis twice (that's
two games, how long it took him to beat me), but in both games, he came up
with a first or second-turn Vise. And a Dervish the turn after (with
me playing straight black Necro). I watched him shuffle, and cut him. The
man oozes luck, and combined with skill like what he has, he's quite
dangerous.:-)


Morrie
morrie....@ssc.msu.edu

My new claim to fame: I got my ass kicked by the National Champion...
Hell, there should be enough of us that we should print up t-shirts!

HntrRos

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Jul 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/10/96
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<<Adam Green
G/W/R creatures/direct damage/white removal deck. Adam was,
unfortunately, disqualified at the round of 16 when it was discovered his
deck
only had 59 cards. It was an honest mistake, but rules are rules.>>

His deck was perfectly legal- however, he forgot to write down one of his
Plains.


James W Sager Iii

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Jul 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM7/16/96
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I was playing a browse deck- which i didn't finish until the day
of the match. I played against 3 necro decks. I won 2-1 vs first 2.
lost 1-1 to last 1. Played against 2 Stasis decks lost 3-0 to both
BTW they were both the same deck different players. Anyways to spare
alot of bandwith. The reason I lost to necrodeck n0 3 was cauze I was
disqualified because I wasn't there on time-which I think is kinda goofy
because I was sitting down when they said beggining of next round o' nats.
Anyways beginning of day make deck- then realize I don't have some cards
with me so i change it. I go buy a red el blast for $.25. Come back to
Nationals round starting & its 40 degrees F in the room- needless to say
I didn't pack a long sleeved shirt so I'm freezing. I go to first match
realize I have 50 million more cards in my blue red deck than I
originally
should have-have to ask for my deck list.- Game goes as follows- I go first
island done -him dk rit spectre done
me mtn - bolt done- him nother swamp hymn- I respond by brainstorming
& hidding my good cards. my turn Island his swamp necro but CSes
my turn browse- CS/browse /cs /browse /cs
Standard browse bull shit - I win crap. but when I get down to bottom
of deck I count cards in my deck and become informed its illegal.
Judge comes over 1 warning 2 more-disqualified.
ok I say thats a stupid rule & I'm freezing.
I won nevertheless he knew he was in a lock & wanted to be a jerk.
Next duel not match- vs Stasis deck I brainstorm & get too many cards
Judge comes over("hi Mr. Rosewater I remember you")- warning n0 2 &
I'm still on my second opponent. Nontheless I am done complaining.
Just wanted to state I did half decent If anyone cares what the deck was
I'll tell em. BTW I believe next Loconto deck is gonna be a Browse deck.
I played him last using the goofy stasis deck.

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