TW and Deck List?
wedge
Can you just have the organizer check to see if crypt and library are
legal?
If no deck is original what does it matter?
Peter D Bakija
> Is it required to make a deck list public?
Required by what? The VEKN? Not at all. The rules? Nope. The only
place where tournament winning decks are made public are the TWDA,
which is a completely voluntary ledger run by a completely volunteer
organization (i.e. Jeff). There is no part of the TWDA that is
required. No one needs to submit decks to the TWDA. The only thing
that is required (for a rated tournament) is to report results in a
timely manner to the VEKN.
The issue that has come up recently, involving people "hiding" there
decks from the TWDA until after the Championships has nothing at all
to do with anything remotely legal, game wise. I object to the
practice as I think it is a combination of silly, pointless, and
pompous. But I don't think it shouldn't be allowed. If people want to
hide their decklists from the public, they can do what they want. But
that people:
A) Want to bask in the glory that is getting archived in the TWDA.
while
B) Want to keep their "proprietary" deck designs hidden from the
public until it is no longer "risky" to release it.
Likely strikes many people as, at the very least, questionable.
> Can you just have the organizer check to see if crypt and library are
> legal?
You don't even need to do that. I have never in my life been to or run
a VTES tournament that had deck checks.
> If no deck is original what does it matter?
I'm not quite sure what this means.
-Peter
The Lasombra
>Is it required to make a deck list public?
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=veknRules.html
1.6. Publishing Event Information
White Wolf, Inc. reserves the right to publish event information such
as the contents of any player's deck as well as transcripts or video
reproductions of any sanctioned tournament. The tournament organizer
is also permitted to publish event information.
>Can you just have the organizer check to see if crypt and library are
>legal?
Sure, for whatever value you believe that will bring.
>If no deck is original what does it matter?
Promoting the game is the point.
If there are no reports of tournaments in a new area that I move to, I
may not look for other players, and then the game loses another
player.
VTES cannot afford to lose players over stupid things like failure to
publicize tournaments.
8. V:EKN Sanctioning Rules
Tournament organizers must follow the rules in this section when
sanctioning events with the V:EKN. The V:EKN reserves the right to
cancel sanctioning for any event at any time.
8.1. Sanctioning Deadline
To ensure sanctioning approval, tournament organizers must apply for
V:EKN sanctioning at least twenty-eight days prior to the event.
8.2. Sanctioned Tournament Advertising
Sanctioned tournaments should be announced/advertised at least
twenty-eight days prior to the event. Announcements should include the
time and place of the event.
9. Event Reporting Rules
Receiving event reports in a correct and timely manner is fundamental
to accurate and up-to-date V:EKN ratings. Tournament organizers must
follow the rules outlined in this section when reporting their events.
9.2. Event Report Deadline
Event reports are due to the V:EKN within eight days of the
tournament's conclusion. Tournament reports not received by the V:EKN
within eight days are considered late, and are listed in the V:EKN
tournament database as "Not Received" for fourteen days after the
event.
echia...@yahoo.com
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:19:57 -0800 (PST), wedge wrote:
> >Is it required to make a deck list public?
>
> http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/index.php?line=veknRules.html
>
> 1.6. Publishing Event Information
>
> White Wolf, Inc. reserves the right to publish event information such
> as the contents of any player's deck as well as transcripts or video
> reproductions of any sanctioned tournament. The tournament organizer
> is also permitted to publish event information.
Jeff did a good job of explaining the official VEKN rules.
Just wanted to point out that even though the organizer is *permitted*
to publish deck information, being allowed to something doesn't always
mean you *should* do it (especially if it's against the wishes of the
winning player).
Similarly, someone else in the game could technically write down the
contents of your entire deck (by taking notes on your ash heap). But
it would be jerk thing to do to then publish that information without
permission.
Also, there are plenty of ways to promote the game (and promote the
event) without going so far as to publish the deck information (though
most of the time the winner probably won't mind).