Master phase question
Pirkka Hannunpoika Hartikainen
* If you have two Short Term Investments in play, and do not play master cards,
can you take the blood out of them both?
I said not, the other said yes. Wordings can be interpreted either way,
I guess.
Other related situation:
* When you have the vamp allowing two Master cards
played on your Master Phases (Anson?) out, does playing an Out-of-Turn
master prevent you from playing any Master cards at all on next turn
or can you still play one master card?
cheers,
pirkka
PS. Sorry my lack of effort with the Deck Archive. I suggest checking
out Not the Deck Archive page at
http://www.engr.trinity.edu/~mlangsdo/RPGs/Jyhad/Decks/index.html
first.. I've actually got to play Jyhad a little after a long break now,
and hopefully when I get my box of Jyhad I get more inspired and improve
the quality of my archives..
L. Scott Johnson
>This came up last night..
>* If you have two Short Term Investments in play, and do not play master cards,
> can you take the blood out of them both?
>I said not, the other said yes. Wordings can be interpreted either way,
>I guess.
No. (You are correct)
>Other related situation:
>* When you have the vamp allowing two Master cards
> played on your Master Phases (Anson?) out, does playing an Out-of-Turn
> master prevent you from playing any Master cards at all on next turn
> or can you still play one master card?
Jyhad: OoT burns the whole phase, so you may not play your other Master.
VtES: OoT burns a "Master Phase Action", so you may still play the second.
References:
From: aa...@hal.COM (Tom Wylie)
Newsgroups: rec.games.deckmaster
Subject: NEW: Rulings summary for Jyhad
Date: 9 Nov 1994 13:11:24 -0800
Message-ID: <39rdts$s...@perv.hal.COM>
Short Term Investment:
If a player has multiple master actions, can take multiple counters off of
Investment(s). This is not possible if an out-of-turn Master card has
been played, as that burns the entire master phase, not just an action.
Because it says "take a counter off *the* Short Term Investment", you
cannot take counters off multiple Investments if you only give up
one master action to do so.
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From: aa...@cats.ucsc.edu
Subject: [VtES][PR] Full Rulebook, 1 of 2
Date: 28 Sep 1995 09:18:37 +0100
Message-ID: <44dlot$1...@acorn.acorn.co.uk>
Out-of-turn: Out-of-turn cards can only be played when it is not your turn.
If you play this type of card, you lose your "master phase action" during
the master phase of your next turn. (The phases of a turn are described in
Section 6.3.) Once you've played an out-of-turn master card, you can't play
another one until after your next turn.
[...]
RULES CHANGES FROM JYHAD TO VAMPIRE: THE ETERNAL STRUGGLE
Section 3.2.1 Master Cards
Using an out-of-turn master card only burns a master phase action, not
your next master phase. However, you can still only play one between turns.
--
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Shane Travis
: This came up last night..
: * If you have two Short Term Investments in play, and do not play master cards,
: can you take the blood out of them both?
No. Rather than playing a single master card, a Methuselah may take a
single blood from an investment. If one had Anson, or Rumours of Gehenna
in play, one could take up to two blood from up to two investments (it is
allowable that they be the same investment).
: Other related situation:
: * When you have the vamp allowing two Master cards
: played on your Master Phases (Anson?) out, does playing an Out-of-Turn
: master prevent you from playing any Master cards at all on next turn
: or can you still play one master card?
Jyhad: OOTM burn your entire master phase. No master cards may be played or
Master-phase effects generated.
VTES: OOTM replace the playing of a single master card. If one has the
ability to play more than one master, one may still do so.
Related VTES questions to follow up his:
- Since playing an OOTM burns the playing of only a single master card,
can someone with Anson in play play two OOTM cards?
- If one does not have Anson/Rumors and plays an OOTM, can one still
generate Master-phase effects when your Master Phase comes around? The
entire phase is not wasted...
Shane H.W. Travis | I try to take one day at a time,
tra...@duke.usask.ca | but sometimes several days attack at once.
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan | -- Ashleigh Brilliant
Thomas R Wylie
Shane Travis <tra...@duke.usask.ca> wrote:
>- Since playing an OOTM burns the playing of only a single master card,
>can someone with Anson in play play two OOTM cards?
No. Playing an OOTM burns up your normal master phase action of your
next turn, not any given master phase action. (This is partially for
balance and partially to avoid confusion in scenarios where someone uses up
both actions from Rumors of Gehenna, annd it is then removed before their
next master phase (and so on).
>- If one does not have Anson/Rumors and plays an OOTM, can one still
>generate Master-phase effects when your Master Phase comes around? The
>entire phase is not wasted...
Yes, you can still use Blood Doll and so forth.
Tom Wylie rec.games.trading-cards.* Network Representative for
aa...@cats.ucsc.edu Wizards of the Coast, Inc.
L. Scott Johnson
>Pirkka Hannunpoika Hartikainen (phar...@niksula.hut.fi) wrote:
>: * When you have the vamp allowing two Master cards
>: played on your Master Phases (Anson?) out, does playing an Out-of-Turn
>: master prevent you from playing any Master cards at all on next turn
>: or can you still play one master card?
>Jyhad: OOTM burn your entire master phase. No master cards may be played or
> Master-phase effects generated.
>VTES: OOTM replace the playing of a single master card. If one has the
> ability to play more than one master, one may still do so.
>Related VTES questions to follow up his:
>- Since playing an OOTM burns the playing of only a single master card,
>can someone with Anson in play play two OOTM cards?
No. This is expressly forbidden in the VtES rulebook
3.2.1. Master Cards
Out-of-turn: Out-of-turn cards can only be played when it is not your turn.
If you play this type of card, you lose your "master phase action" during
the master phase of your next turn. (The phases of a turn are described in
Section 6.3.) Once you've played an out-of-turn master card, you can't play
another one until after your next turn.
>- If one does not have Anson/Rumors and plays an OOTM, can one still
>generate Master-phase effects when your Master Phase comes around? The
>entire phase is not wasted...
Sure. Blood Dolls, Chantry, etc. are still usable.