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Henke
1 blood
Only usable when the opposing vampire goes into torpor; not usable by a
vampire going into torpor. Combat ends. You may look at the opposing
vampire's controller's hand.
Nice card! Not sure about the "combat ends" part... Combat was supposed to
end anyway... What impact does this text hav? Does the opposing vampire now
NOT go to torpor?
Chas Giovanni Tello
DOM POT
Independent : When Chas announces an action, any other Methuselah can
discard a master card as an out-of-turn master to cause the action to fail.
Chas gets +1 strength when in combat with a titled vampire.
Guess I have to find a way to use this baby without taking actions... Lots
of deflections, some permanent intercept spiced up with signposts, grapples
and big POT-strikes! In any case, he'll be difficult to play, but fun too!
Weaknesses are advantages you have to search a little harder to find!
/Henke
LSJ
>Tortured Confession
>1 blood
>Only usable when the opposing vampire goes into torpor; not usable by a
>vampire going into torpor. Combat ends. You may look at the opposing
>vampire's controller's hand.
>
>Nice card! Not sure about the "combat ends" part... Combat was supposed to
>end anyway... What impact does this text hav? Does the opposing vampire now
>NOT go to torpor?
It ends combat. It doesn't save the opposing vampire from torpor (since
nothing on card text indicates that it does). It would, for example,
prevent you from Torturing your victim and then Amaranthing him.
(Something that would be possible if Tortured Confession didn't explicitly
end combat as part of its effect).
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Aramis
> DOM POT
> Independent : When Chas announces an action, any other Methuselah can
> discard a master card as an out-of-turn master to cause the action to fail.
> Chas gets +1 strength when in combat with a titled vampire.
>
> Guess I have to find a way to use this baby without taking actions... Lots
> of deflections, some permanent intercept spiced up with signposts, grapples
> and big POT-strikes! In any case, he'll be difficult to play, but fun too!
> Weaknesses are advantages you have to search a little harder to find!
>
> /Henke
I'm glad they gave him such a "flaw". Another 4 with DOM means all
the crypt machine decks get that much nastier... Of course it leads to
such questions as: do I really want my "name master card here" or do I
want to be bled for 3-7 pool? hmmm....interesting.
Johann
> Tortured Confession
> 1 blood
> Only usable when the opposing vampire goes into torpor; not usable by a
> vampire going into torpor. Combat ends. You may look at the opposing
> vampire's controller's hand.
>
> Nice card! Not sure about the "combat ends" part... Combat was supposed to
> end anyway... What impact does this text hav? Does the opposing vampire now
> NOT go to torpor?
>
> Chas Giovanni Tello
> DOM POT
> Independent : When Chas announces an action, any other Methuselah can
> discard a master card as an out-of-turn master to cause the action to fail.
> Chas gets +1 strength when in combat with a titled vampire.
>
LSJ: if somebody uses a master-out-of-turn to cause chas's action to
fail, does that mean he's tapped? or simply canceled like direct
intervention?
LSJ
>> discard a master card as an out-of-turn master to cause the action to fail.
>> Chas gets +1 strength when in combat with a titled vampire.
>>
>umm cool stats but...what's his capacity?
4
>LSJ: if somebody uses a master-out-of-turn to cause chas's action to
>fail, does that mean he's tapped? or simply canceled like direct
>intervention?
The action fails. It is not canceled - it fails (card text).
He tapped to take the action [6.2.1], the action failed (card text), and
nothing about his card text indicates that he is to be untapped when his
actions fail, so...
Rob Treasure
"Aramis" <came...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > Chas Giovanni Tello
> > DOM POT
> > Independent : When Chas announces an action, any other Methuselah can
> > discard a master card as an out-of-turn master to cause the action to
fail.
> > Chas gets +1 strength when in combat with a titled vampire.
> I'm glad they gave him such a "flaw". Another 4 with DOM means all
> the crypt machine decks get that much nastier... Of course it leads to
> such questions as: do I really want my "name master card here" or do I
> want to be bled for 3-7 pool? hmmm....interesting.
You're right, this might not be so hot after all. Another 4 pointer with
DOM, that spells lots more sleaze and lots more Deflections to me. What are
there three 4 caps with DOM now, that's getting ugly.... but then again the
DOM Dom deck will only be enhanced slightly with him (take out 1 Ingrid put
in Chas I suppose?) Bit less contesting but more stopped actions with his
master counter thing ??
Rob.
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Derek Ray
>> Chas Giovanni Tello
>> DOM POT
>> Independent : When Chas announces an action, any other Methuselah can
>> discard a master card as an out-of-turn master to cause the action to fail.
>> Chas gets +1 strength when in combat with a titled vampire.
>>
>I'm glad they gave him such a "flaw". Another 4 with DOM means all
>the crypt machine decks get that much nastier... Of course it leads to
>such questions as: do I really want my "name master card here" or do I
>want to be bled for 3-7 pool? hmmm....interesting.
Idle note: the Crypt Machine uses 4-caps with inferior Dominate, not
superior. =) 4-caps can't Govern to 4-caps.
-- Derek
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Wes
direction. I can't seem to find the deck that you are talking about.
Cheers,
WES
The Lasombra
Wes <gh...@NOSPAMmnsi.net> wrote in message
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> Would someone mind posting the Crypt Machine? Or pointing me in the right
> direction. I can't seem to find the deck that you are talking about.
Start at the VTES Atlanta site:
http://people.atl.mediaone.net/intj/jpa/
Go to the deck archive page:
http://people.atl.mediaone.net/intj/jpa/indexd.htm
Go to Derek Ray's decks:
http://people.atl.mediaone.net/intj/jpa/decks_Derek.htm
Click on the first deck, The Crypt Machine:
http://people.atl.mediaone.net/intj/jpa/decks/derek_TheCryptMachine.html
or just scroll down:
Deck name: the Crypt Machine
Created by: Derek Ray
Description: All weenie-dominate 4's. Skill card 'em, Govern backwards, get
out people for near-free. Bleed and enjoy. ...If you encounter difficulty,
try to keep in mind that even though they're 4-caps, they *are* disposable.
Crypt: (12 cards) [Min: 16, Max: 16, Avg: 4.00]
1 Aleph (Malkavian, 4, AU do)
1 Courtland Leighton (Ventrue, 4, do fo pr)
1 Francesca Giovanni (Giovanni, 4, do ne po)
1 Ignacio, The Black Priest (Lasombra, 4, do ot po)
1 Ignatius (Tremere, 4, au do th)
1 Laurent de Valois (Nosferatu, 4, an do ob)
1 Ramiro (Lasombra, 4, do ot vi)
1 Roland Bishop (Malkavian, 4, au do ob)
1 Sarah Cobbler (Tremere, 4, do TH)
1 Shane Grimald (Gangrel Antitribu, 4, an do po)
1 Thelonius (Tremere Antitribu, 4, au do th)
1 Violette Prentiss (Ventrue, 4, do PR)
Library: (75 cards)
5 Bonding
1 Bureaucratic Overload
9 Conditioning
8 Deflection
5 Delaying Tactics
5 Dodge
8 Dominate
10 Govern the Unaligned
2 Grave Robbing
2 Inbase Discotek, Frankfurt
10 Seduction
3 Sleeping Mind, The
2 Sudden Reversal
5 Wake with Evening's Freshness
Aramis
> Idle note: the Crypt Machine uses 4-caps with inferior Dominate, not
> superior. =) 4-caps can't Govern to 4-caps.
I wasn't referring to an actual deck. Just a deck-design with
dominate weenies. We have a version of the original "Crypt Machine"
in our playgroup in Madison that uses 4's and below (not contesting
much of anyone) which is why I thought another 4 with DOM would suck
for me personally...
Aramis