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Jozxyqk

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Mar 3, 2007, 9:46:25 PM3/3/07
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Relevant excerpt of Winchester Mansion's text:
"During each of your master phases, if you do not play
a master card from your hand, this vampire burns 1 blood."

Let's say my Prey controls Watenda with a Winchester Mansion.
During my Master Phase, I play Malkavian Dementia to take
control of Watenda. I have no source of additional Master Phase
Actions.

Is the Winchester Mansion text satisfied by the fact that
I played Malk Dementia?

Or does Watenda burn a blood?


LSJ

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Mar 3, 2007, 10:26:16 PM3/3/07
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Satisfied.

CthuluKitty

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Mar 3, 2007, 11:47:25 PM3/3/07
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> > Is the Winchester Mansion text satisfied by the fact that
> > I played Malk Dementia?
>
> > Or does Watenda burn a blood?
>
> Satisfied.

Perhaps you could elaborate on why this works as such?

I'm assuming that Winchester Mansion checks at the end of the Master
Phase whether or not a Master card was played, and sees that Dementia
was played. Is this how it works?

This leads to another timing question: does the Mansion only trigger
at the end of the Master Phase. In other words, if for some contrived
reason (possibly involving mandatory actions, or whatever--or maybe
Raphael Catarari) I wanted to burn blood off the vampire with the
Mansion, could I announce the effect before playing a master card
(Mansion checks, sees no card played, burns a blood) and then play a
master card? Or does it always wait until the end of the phase?

Jozxyqk

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Mar 4, 2007, 7:52:24 AM3/4/07
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CthuluKitty <vtana...@riseup.net> wrote:
> > > Is the Winchester Mansion text satisfied by the fact that
> > > I played Malk Dementia?
> >
> > > Or does Watenda burn a blood?
> >
> > Satisfied.

> Perhaps you could elaborate on why this works as such?

The (mechanical) reason I asked the question was because of the
Concealed Sniper Rifle effect (i.e. you can't set range with
a Sniper Rifle you just pulled out of your pants after blocking).

But I can see why Dementia+Winchester would work differently,
as Watenda has already changed control when Dementia resolves,
so the Mansion "sees" that.

LSJ

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Mar 4, 2007, 8:07:34 AM3/4/07
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Well, that and the mechanics of the effect demand a past-checking effect. So
even if a non-master-card-play effect moves the Winchester-bearer, the Mansion
would still notice if the new "you" has played a master card this phase.

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