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Vince Johnson

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May 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/1/99
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Snoop <bu...@multimania.com> wrote in message
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> If you attempt to block a bleed against you, could you play a bleed
reducer
> (Thelepatic counter for example) with the blocking vampire if you fail to
> block the bleed?
>

I don't see why not.

> Can i use the maneuver provided with a gun on the second round ? even if i
> shoot with the gun during the first round ?
> For example : I play Flash with sup CEL to take a maneuver then 1 shoot
with
> my .44 then i take the press provided by flash, 2nd round : i take the
> maneuver from my .44 and shoot again at long range ... is it possible ?
>

Perfectly legal. Technically you never have to use the manuver if a weapon
provides one as an option. It just doesn't make sense though to stay at
close range when you can hit for long and often your opponent's vampire
can't(though I can think of a few specific cases against this but overall
that's the reasoning).

Vince

Derek S. Ray

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May 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/1/99
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On Sat, 1 May 1999 13:02:15 +0200, "Snoop" <bu...@multimania.com>
wrote:

>If you attempt to block a bleed against you, could you play a bleed reducer
>(Thelepatic counter for example) with the blocking vampire if you fail to
>block the bleed?

Yep. I think the only card that can actually stop this is Faceless
Night, since that taps you even if the block is unsuccessful and will
therefore leave you tapped and unable to play Reaction cards. =)

>Can i use the maneuver provided with a gun on the second round ? even if i
>shoot with the gun during the first round ?
>For example : I play Flash with sup CEL to take a maneuver then 1 shoot with
>my .44 then i take the press provided by flash, 2nd round : i take the
>maneuver from my .44 and shoot again at long range ... is it possible ?

Yep.

-- Derek
(replying by email? remove the nospam from my domain :)

LSJ

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May 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/2/99
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lor...@nospam.nineball.org (Derek S. Ray) wrote:
> On Sat, 1 May 1999 13:02:15 +0200, "Snoop" <bu...@multimania.com> wrote:
>
> >If you attempt to block a bleed against you, could you play a bleed reducer
> >(Thelepatic counter for example) with the blocking vampire if you fail to
> >block the bleed?
>
> Yep. I think the only card that can actually stop this is Faceless
> Night, since that taps you even if the block is unsuccessful and will
> therefore leave you tapped and unable to play Reaction cards. =)

Faceless Night won't stop that. Faceless Night taps the would-be blocker
when his controller declares that she is not blocking (or when another
block is successful).

The would-be blocker can still play reaction cards until that time
(like Enhanced Senses or Telepathic Counter).

> >Can i use the maneuver provided with a gun on the second round ? even if i
> >shoot with the gun during the first round ?
> >For example : I play Flash with sup CEL to take a maneuver then 1 shoot with
> >my .44 then i take the press provided by flash, 2nd round : i take the
> >maneuver from my .44 and shoot again at long range ... is it possible ?
>
> Yep.

Correct.

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Derek S. Ray

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May 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/2/99
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On Sun, 02 May 1999 11:43:57 GMT, vte...@wizards.com (LSJ) wrote:

>lor...@nospam.nineball.org (Derek S. Ray) wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 May 1999 13:02:15 +0200, "Snoop" <bu...@multimania.com> wrote:
>>
>> >If you attempt to block a bleed against you, could you play a bleed reducer
>> >(Thelepatic counter for example) with the blocking vampire if you fail to
>> >block the bleed?
>>
>> Yep. I think the only card that can actually stop this is Faceless
>> Night, since that taps you even if the block is unsuccessful and will
>> therefore leave you tapped and unable to play Reaction cards. =)
>
>Faceless Night won't stop that. Faceless Night taps the would-be blocker
>when his controller declares that she is not blocking (or when another
>block is successful).

Hm, I think I phrased it improperly, because that's what I meant. =)

>The would-be blocker can still play reaction cards until that time
>(like Enhanced Senses or Telepathic Counter).

Yep, but the blocker can't fail to block and THEN play a bleed
reducer, correct? the blocker needs to play all the reaction cards
before admitting that the block is actually unsuccessful -- meaning
that all Faceless Night really does is ensure that you can't wait for
your predator to bump the bleed before deciding whether to Tel.
Counter it or Tel. Misdirection it, you have to pick right away. =)

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