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[Quick Question] Pulled Fangs timing

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The Doctor

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Aug 5, 2004, 11:50:39 AM8/5/04
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Pulled Fangs timing in combination with aggravated hand damage (claws) is
my main concern here.

I smack someone on the head with Unndead Strength at superior for 3 hand
and pull out the claws. They hit me for 1 hand back.

I inflict more damagae at close range, so Pulled Fangs can be played.
When?

And when does the damage cut in?

Assuming the poor sod had 2 blood on him, dealing with 1 normal damage and
3 aggro would burn him in one case and just send him to torpor in another
case.

//Doc.

LSJ

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Aug 5, 2004, 12:05:43 PM8/5/04
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"The Doctor" <D...@freemail.nl> wrote in message news:4112574f$0$48933$e4fe...@news.xs4all.nl...

> Pulled Fangs timing in combination with aggravated hand damage (claws) is
> my main concern here.
>
> I smack someone on the head with Unndead Strength at superior for 3 hand
> and pull out the claws. They hit me for 1 hand back.
>
> I inflict more damagae at close range, so Pulled Fangs can be played.
> When?

at the end of the round of combat


> And when does the damage cut in?

The strike damage: during strike resolution.
The PF damage: at the end of the round (when PF is played).

> Assuming the poor sod had 2 blood on him, dealing with 1 normal damage and
> 3 aggro would burn him in one case and just send him to torpor in another
> case.

3 aggro: wounded and 2 blood.
Combat (and thus the round) ends with him unready, so PF is played.
He takes one more damage and cannot heal it (since he is empty).


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Colin McGuigan

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Aug 5, 2004, 12:07:21 PM8/5/04
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The Doctor wrote:
> I inflict more damagae at close range, so Pulled Fangs can be played.
> When?

End of the round. Assuming the other vamp is going to torpor from the
agg damage, that would be "now". Otherwise, you have to wait until
after the press step.

(Same window as Taste of Vitae).

> And when does the damage cut in?

When it's played (though they can prevent it, etc, as normal).

> Assuming the poor sod had 2 blood on him, dealing with 1 normal damage and
> 3 aggro would burn him in one case and just send him to torpor in another
> case.

Except that you can't play Pulled Fangs until _after_ your 3 agg has
already resolved (until it's resolved, you've neither done more damage
to them, nor are you at the end of the round). So you can play it, but
it won't stack on top of 3 agg already done to help burn the vampire.

(IOW: Vamp with 2 blood gets hit for 3 agg. Goes to torpor, burns 2
blood to prevent destruction, is now empty. You can play PF, but it'll
just do another point of non-agg damage, which the in-torpor-empty
vampire ignores.)

(These are, of course, the MRP text. If you play Jyhad agg rules and PF
does agg and all that, things are different.)

--Colin McGuigan

The Doctor

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Aug 5, 2004, 12:10:13 PM8/5/04
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LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> The strike damage: during strike resolution.
> The PF damage: at the end of the round (when PF is played).

Thanx, I'll toss all PF out of my deck immediately :)

//Doc.

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