[LSJ] Derange, Malkavian Dementia and contest

felipechewbacca

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Feb 22, 2008, 1:38:55 PM2/22/08

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Hi,

We were playing here in my city than this happened:

My predator was playing with !Malk and I was playing with my Ventrue.
Arika was ready. Than one of his !malks derange Arika.

My first question is: Does Arika loses her votes?

After a while my predator stole the Arika with Malkavian Dementia. In
my influence, with Arika under control of my predator, I brougth a new
Arika into play, contesting the first one.

My second question is: Does the effect of Malkavian Dementia will
ends, even with the copies being contested and out of game? If yes,
Can I choose to don't pay the contest of the !Malk Arika and keep the
other one?

Malkavian Dementia

Cardtype: Master

Clan: {-none-}

Master.
Take control of a ready Malkavian that another Methuselah controls
until your next untap phase.

Artist: Anson Maddocks

LSJ

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Feb 22, 2008, 1:53:23 PM2/22/08

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felipechewbacca wrote:
> Arika was ready. Than one of his !malks derange Arika.
>
> My first question is: Does Arika loses her votes?

Section 10 of the rulebook addresses this:

If a vampire with a title changes clans or sects to a clan or sect inappropriate
for his title, he loses the benefit of the title until his clan or sect changes
appropriately.

> After a while my predator stole the Arika with Malkavian Dementia. In
> my influence, with Arika under control of my predator, I brougth a new
> Arika into play, contesting the first one.
>
> My second question is: Does the effect of Malkavian Dementia will
> ends, even with the copies being contested and out of game? If yes,
> Can I choose to don't pay the contest of the !Malk Arika and keep the
> other one?

When the Dementia effect ends (when your predator reaches her untap phase), the
formerly-Demented Malk returns to you. You would then be self-contesting, so
that formerly-Demented Malk is burned instead.

Jozxyqk

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Feb 22, 2008, 2:00:55 PM2/22/08

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felipechewbacca <felipec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,

> We were playing here in my city than this happened:

> My predator was playing with !Malk and I was playing with my Ventrue.
> Arika was ready. Than one of his !malks derange Arika.

> After a while my predator stole the Arika with Malkavian Dementia. In

Your predator cheated.
You can not steal a Malkavian Antitribu with Malkavian Dementia.

felipechewbacca

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Feb 22, 2008, 2:13:53 PM2/22/08

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On 22 fev, 16:00, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:

Yep. You're totally right.

But lets pretend tha he was playing with a Malk - an ordinary one :).

In that case, I got Ask again: Now that Arika is Camarilla, does she
loses her votes anyway?

LSJ

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Feb 22, 2008, 2:20:01 PM2/22/08

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felipechewbacca wrote:
> In that case, I got Ask again: Now that Arika is Camarilla, does she
> loses her votes anyway?

Arika is Camarilla to start with. Why would she lose her votes for being Camarilla?

felipechewbacca

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Feb 22, 2008, 2:23:58 PM2/22/08

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Yep. That's what I thougth. Just checking. Thank's A lot.

OrgPlay

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Feb 22, 2008, 2:50:39 PM2/22/08

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On Feb 22, 2:00 pm, Jozxyqk <jfeue...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote:

I hope that Malk was older than Arika, also. unless it was already a
Deranged vampire.

felipechewbacca

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Feb 22, 2008, 4:44:28 PM2/22/08

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Second option. It was a deranged vampire. My mistake. Again. Sorry.

devil_in_the_p...@yahoo.com

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Feb 23, 2008, 7:46:09 AM2/23/08

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Are you guys reading to exit your cheating phase?