[LSJ] Disarming Presence

[Sorrow]

This came up tonight:
If you play Disarming Presence as one of the modifiers to a vote, can
tapped
vampires vote?

It is my position that yes, they can. It's just that any untapped vampires
that
votes, become tapped as well.
It was argued that because a vampire gets tapped as the result of voting,
that
any tapped vampires could not vote.

Which is correct?

Sorrow

[L. Scott Johnson]

You are correct. Tapping is a side effect of voting (under Disarming
Presense). It is not a cost.

--
L. Scott Johnson (vte...@regency.wizards.com)
Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.
(*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

[Dan Hollis]

Sorrow wrote:
>
> This came up tonight:
> If you play Disarming Presence as one of the modifiers to a vote, can
> tapped
> vampires vote?
>
> It is my position that yes, they can. It's just that any untapped vampires
> that
> votes, become tapped as well.
> It was argued that because a vampire gets tapped as the result of voting,
> that
> any tapped vampires could not vote.
>
> Which is correct?
>

> Sorrow

They've got to be able to. Otherwise, no vote-gaining action
modifiers can be
played - like Awe and Bewitching Oration, because the vampire gaining
the votes
is tapped. Well, I suppose Alexandra or some other strangely timed
effect could untap
the vampire, but that'd be some ugly game mechanics.

dh

[xcdc...@aol.com]

A quick note on this. Once the vampire votes, it is tapped and cannot play any reaction cards (like surprise influence, dread gaze, Kindred Coercion, etc). This came up in a game where we played it and a vamp called a vote. Someone else playing a prince deck cast all his votes (4). The vote caller played Bewitching Oration (vote stands at 7 to 4), although the other vote deck had Kindred Coercion he was stuck and could not play the card with all his vamps tapped. (He had planned to trump it and then hit with a Political Backlash, another unuseable card with tapped vamps). Unfortunately, I was neither the vote caller, but I learned a valuable lesson that day about Disarming Presence.

Chance

Chance
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