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Feb 17, 1995, 7:36:27 AM2/17/95
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A friend and I recently got into Jyhad, and have really enjoyed
playing it. We have a few questions though:

1). can you play Action modifier cards (cards that give bonuses to bleed,
for example) AFTER block declaration? For example, Player A attempts to
bleed B, asking B if B is going to block. B says he will not block, can A
THEN play Conditioning, or something similar? It doesn't mention this in
the rulebook.

2). Do vampires tap as a result of going to turpor?

3). By playing a master skill card on a vampire that already has that
skill, thus giving it Superior ability, does that increase it's blood
capacity?

4). Why does Computer Hacking have a (D) next to it (I know (D) stands
for Directed Action). CH is an action card; and bleeding is ALREADY
directed. Isn't it redundant? Don't you play CH on on eof your ready
vampires, and then that vampire gets +1 bleed when he attempts to bleed
(and after the attempt, CH is burned)?

5). Must actions cards be used immediatly? For example, can I play
Computer Hacking on one of my ready vampires, wait two turns, then decide
to bleed, and at that point (after that bleed) the CH would be burned?

Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions. I appreciate it!

Tyrus

Alec Habig

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Feb 17, 1995, 11:31:29 AM2/17/95
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[+] RTS [+] <ty...@starbase.neosoft.com> wrote:
>1). can you play Action modifier cards (cards that give bonuses to bleed,
>for example) AFTER block declaration? For example, Player A attempts to
>bleed B, asking B if B is going to block. B says he will not block, can A
>THEN play Conditioning, or something similar? It doesn't mention this in
>the rulebook.

Sure. This is what makes the Dominate based bleed cards better than the
Presence based bleed cards (which are all actions rather than action
modifiers).

>2). Do vampires tap as a result of going to turpor?

Nope. However, unless a vampire is directly attacked (say, by a bums's rush or
something), then he's either done an action or blocked an action in order to
get in the fight that torporized hime - so he's tapped anyway, and stays that
way when he hits torpor.

Unless the vampire is paralyzed, however, he gets to untap in the untap phase
even while he's in torpor!

>3). By playing a master skill card on a vampire that already has that
>skill, thus giving it Superior ability, does that increase it's blood
>capacity?

Sure.

>4). Why does Computer Hacking have a (D) next to it (I know (D) stands
>for Directed Action). CH is an action card; and bleeding is ALREADY
>directed. Isn't it redundant?

I agree with you. However, WotC has ruled that the bleed cards with the (D)
mean that you can bleed people who aren't your prey. Silly.

>Don't you play CH on on eof your ready
>vampires, and then that vampire gets +1 bleed when he attempts to bleed
>(and after the attempt, CH is burned)?

That's exactly how it works.

>5). Must actions cards be used immediatly? For example, can I play
>Computer Hacking on one of my ready vampires, wait two turns, then decide
>to bleed, and at that point (after that bleed) the CH would be burned?

Nope, they must be used immediately. Your vampire takes the action of computer
hacking by playing that card, and actions always get resolved right away.

Alec

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Thomas Doehne

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Feb 17, 1995, 4:58:24 PM2/17/95
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The trading-cards hierarchy has a place set aside for all trades,
sales, and auctions, the rec.games.trading-cards.marketplace
hierarchy. I go looking for cards there, and so do most people.
This newsgroup is reserved for posts discussing the game. These
conventions are set up so that we can efficiently read netnews.
Please abide by them.

I sent Greg Zuvich <ju...@gladstone.uoregon.edu> a polite note
pointing this out, and was told to buzz off. I don't encourage
sabotage of obnoxious sellers/auctioneers, but I do encourage
everyone who has bid in his auction to retract their bids.

Lately I've noticed a pronounced rise in the number of sale/auction
postings in this group, especially by sellers who have been trying
to sell/auction their cards for overly high prices. To you sellers:
Try lowering your prices. People *ARE* reading your sale/auction
announcements -- you're just asking too much.

--
Tom Doehne
doe...@cse.ogi.edu

Robert Matthew Edens

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Feb 18, 1995, 7:58:45 PM2/18/95
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Sir,
I'm not quite sure I understand the necessity of of this *dire* warnign
about our little corner of the net...Personally I am loathe to even enter
the over 2000 posted message area of the rec.marketplace because of the
overwhelming # of Magic messages posted therein...I actually find it very
convenient to be able to come to this area for such information...By your
logic we should also not trade cards here either as that action is not
*game discussion*...While I don't necessarily agree with the slippery
slope argument presented by Greg, I don't see the need to scold
anyone...The basic premise of the net IMO is the information should be
free, as long as it is not harmful...under this I see no reason to
discourage anyone from auctioning within these hallowed halls...

-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=

Death to extremists
Rob
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ty...@starbase.neosoft.com

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Feb 20, 1995, 11:18:00 AM2/20/95
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It doesn't mention this in the tiny rulebook, so I thought I
would ask here..

What actions cause a minion to tap? If you equip a minion, play
an action card on a minion, or play a political card on a minion, do they
tap?

I know hunting and attempting to bleed, and blocking (and going
into combat) causes them to tap. What about the others?

Thanks!

Tyrus

L. Scott Johnson

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Feb 20, 1995, 1:49:05 PM2/20/95
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ty...@starbase.neosoft.com () writes:


> It doesn't mention this in the tiny rulebook, so I thought I
>would ask here..

See section 12: What you can do on your turn (p.19).

> What actions cause a minion to tap? If you equip a minion, play
>an action card on a minion, or play a political card on a minion, do they
>tap?

> I know hunting and attempting to bleed, and blocking (and going
>into combat) causes them to tap. What about the others?

All actions tap the minion. Some actions (MovingSlowBody) untap as part
of the action, and will leave the Minion untapped.

1) Announce the action.
2) Tap the acting minion.
3) Avoid being Blocked :-)
4) Resolve the action. (Pay cost for actions that have costs.)

L. Scott

Joseph Cochran

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Feb 21, 1995, 11:38:37 AM2/21/95
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In article <1995Feb20.0...@cs.cornell.edu>,
Alan Kwan <kw...@cs.cornell.edu> wrote:
>So I'm not the only person who thinks that this is silly.
>What's the purpose in restricting /unmodified/ bleeds to
>your prey, while allowing /modified/ mega-bleeds to

To keep you aimed at your prey while still allowing you to be a
threat to anyone.

>anybody. These days everyone has lots of (D) bleed
>cards in his Library, so the old bleed-only-prey rule
>(persumably to restrict ganging up on the leader)
>serves no purpose.

Not really. I don't see lots of (D) bleed cards around here (a
few to keep people on their toes, but not many). Still, it's just plain
stupid to tap out anyway.

>It's really silly. Even if I managed to torporize /all/ of
>my predator's vampires, I still can't tap out to work on
>my prey, because someone's going to Computer Hack me for
>the Edge.

Oh dear. You have to worry about other players in a
multi-player game. Horror of horrors!

That's the POINT of those sorts of cards. The game is not
designed to restrict you to only attacking one player (your prey). The
game is designed so that your main concern is your prey, but you can
interfere all you want in other people's plans, and you can negotiate
with someone and back it up with force if they cheat you.
The flip side of this: there are other people that can mess
with you. If you want a two player game, go back to Magic. This one is
truly a group game, and you're never alone until you've killed off
everyone else...

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