Direct Action on Tapped Vampires

[Kathleen Ellis]

After playing a game of V:TES a few days ago with a group, a question
occurred to me. If a tapped vampire is attacked by another vampire as a
direct action can the tapped vampire defend itself against the onslaught
or do they have to helplessly take the beating? In this game the rule
was it had to take the punishment. I wasn't sure about the ruling
concerning this so I did not contest it. Is there a rule? Please let me
know. Thanks.

Kathleen of Clan Brujah =;)

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[DOUGDWISE]

Kathleen,
Tell your group that they are wrong. Whether a minion is tapped or not
has no effect on combat. A tapped vampire has exactly the same combat
abilities and options as an untapped one. They don't have to take any
whuppin's. Give 'em hell, Brujah!!! ;-)
Doug Dunaway
(An artisticly inept Torreador)

[Kathleen Ellis]

DOUGDWISE (doug...@aol.com) wrote:
: Kathleen,

: Tell your group that they are wrong. Whether a minion is tapped or not
: has no effect on combat. A tapped vampire has exactly the same combat
: abilities and options as an untapped one.

Doug,
Thanks for the quick reply. I was sure the tapped vampire was still able
to defend itself. Now I know. =;)

:They don't have to take any : whuppin's. Give 'em hell, Brujah!!! ;-)

: Doug Dunaway
: (An artisticly inept Torreador)

You damn right I will, Torreador!!! I'll make them pay!!! =;)

Kathleen of Clan Brujah

[Rory]

On 21 Jun 1996 23:33:24 GMT, af...@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Kathleen Ellis)
wrote:

>After playing a game of V:TES a few days ago with a group, a question
>occurred to me. If a tapped vampire is attacked by another vampire as a
>direct action can the tapped vampire defend itself against the onslaught
>or do they have to helplessly take the beating? In this game the rule
>was it had to take the punishment. I wasn't sure about the ruling
>concerning this so I did not contest it. Is there a rule? Please let me
>know. Thanks.

>Kathleen of Clan Brujah =;)

Sig snipped because your a Brujah:)
A tapped vampire cannot play reaction cards but all combat cards are
go.
Rory
The Ref at refplace.best.com

[Danielle E. Ostach]

DOUGDWISE (doug...@aol.com) wrote:
: Kathleen,
: Tell your group that they are wrong. Whether a minion is tapped or not
: has no effect on combat. A tapped vampire has exactly the same combat

: abilities and options as an untapped one. They don't have to take any

: whuppin's. Give 'em hell, Brujah!!! ;-)
: Doug Dunaway
: (An artisticly inept Torreador)

This brings up a different question. Contracts and certain cards say
attack a vampire with stealth while others say enter combant with the
target minion. What is the difference between the two? Does attack mean
you get to take a free strike at the target vampire (contracts being a
surprise attack and assassination)?

Danielle, Caitiff Justicar

[L. Scott Johnson]

No. "Attack" and "Enter Combat" are the same. The only difference
in the examples you mention would be the stealth level.
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[Bastet]

On 24 Jun 1996, Danielle E. Ostach wrote:

> Date: 24 JUN 1996 19:20:49 -0500
> From: Danielle E. Ostach <dani...@MCS.COM>
> Newgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad
> Subject: Re: Direct Action on Tapped Vampires

>
> DOUGDWISE (doug...@aol.com) wrote:
> : Kathleen,
> : Tell your group that they are wrong. Whether a minion is tapped or not
> : has no effect on combat. A tapped vampire has exactly the same combat
> : abilities and options as an untapped one. They don't have to take any
> : whuppin's. Give 'em hell, Brujah!!! ;-)
> : Doug Dunaway
> : (An artisticly inept Torreador)
>
> This brings up a different question. Contracts and certain cards say
> attack a vampire with stealth while others say enter combant with the
> target minion. What is the difference between the two? Does attack mean
> you get to take a free strike at the target vampire (contracts being a
> surprise attack and assassination)?
>

> Danielle, Caitiff Justicar
>
>

No, that's what Hidden Lurker and Fast Reaction are for. I Highly
recommend Hidden lurker for an Assamite deck. I may even rebuild my
L.A. riots deck with assamites just to see someones expression who
blocked an action of mine and got smacked by 3 Assamites without a strike
in response.

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[Rory]

On 24 Jun 1996 19:20:49 -0500, dani...@MCS.COM (Danielle E. Ostach)
wrote:

>This brings up a different question. Contracts and certain cards say
>attack a vampire with stealth while others say enter combant with the
>target minion. What is the difference between the two? Does attack mean
>you get to take a free strike at the target vampire (contracts being a
>surprise attack and assassination)?

>Danielle, Caitiff Justicar
No free attack. The card text merely allows someone to tak a D action
to enter combat/attack soomeone. Any stealth gained from a card just
means your harder to block and more likely to enter combat with the
desired minion.
Rory
The Ref at refp...@best.com