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Stealth/intercept question [LSJ]

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Javelin

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Jun 12, 2002, 6:06:20 PM6/12/02
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The rulebook states that you can only add stealth or intercept during
an action if the acting/blocking minion needs it. But what about
reducing stealth/intercept? Can you play inferior Ignis Fatuus even if
the acting minion's stealth doesn't exceed any blocker's intercept?
Does a block attempt even have to be made for you to play the card?

On the action modifier side, can a Daughter of Cacophony play inferior
The Missing Voice just to cycle the card, even if no block attempts
are being made?

reyda

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Jun 12, 2002, 7:08:56 PM6/12/02
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"Javelin" <javel...@yahoo.co.jp> wrote in message
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> The rulebook states that you can only add stealth or intercept during
> an action if the acting/blocking minion needs it. But what about
> reducing stealth/intercept? Can you play inferior Ignis Fatuus even if
> the acting minion's stealth doesn't exceed any blocker's intercept?

Yes =)

> Does a block attempt even have to be made for you to play the card?

No !

> On the action modifier side, can a Daughter of Cacophony play inferior
> The Missing Voice just to cycle the card, even if no block attempts
> are being made?

Yes =) and most of the time i myself end up playing this card for the
purpose of cycling.

reyda

LSJ

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Jun 12, 2002, 7:15:39 PM6/12/02
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Correct.

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Wouter Kuyper

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Jun 13, 2002, 5:51:12 AM6/13/02
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On (about) the same matter:

If i don't get blocked (yet) and play superior bonding or fata
morgana, do i get the +1 stealth? (since i usually cannot play stealth
when not blocked)

I thought the answer would be yes, following this:

Meth A bleeds at 1 stealth
Meth B attempts to block and plays enhanced senses (superior), this
gives the blocking vamp 2 intercept even though he only needs 1
intercept

My JOL-partners said that i was wrong (and for the game it didn't
matter much), but it left me in doubt.....

Were they right?

Thx,
W

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message news:<3D07D63F...@white-wolf.com>...

reyda

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Jun 13, 2002, 6:01:51 AM6/13/02
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"Wouter Kuyper" <wouter...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On (about) the same matter:
>
> If i don't get blocked (yet) and play superior bonding or fata
> morgana, do i get the +1 stealth? (since i usually cannot play stealth
> when not blocked)

no you don't get the +1 stealth. You use fata morgana for +1 bleed instead.
(see new card text)

The old card text prevented you to play superior fata morgana if prey
declined to block because you can't add stealth when you don't need it. The
new wording is more player-friendly ;)

LSJ

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Jun 13, 2002, 7:46:00 AM6/13/02
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Top-posting makes it hard to follow conversations.
If you aren't refering to the message you're following-up to, then don't
quote it. If you are, then intersperse your comments with the quoted text
that they reference.

See below:

> If i don't get blocked (yet) and play superior bonding or fata
> morgana, do i get the +1 stealth? (since i usually cannot play stealth
> when not blocked)

Can't play superior Bonding or Fata Morgana for stealth if you don't need
steath. "usually" is "always" - you cannot play stealth when you don't need
stealth (explicit card text to the contrary is needed to overcome this rule).



> I thought the answer would be yes, following this:
>
> Meth A bleeds at 1 stealth
> Meth B attempts to block and plays enhanced senses (superior), this
> gives the blocking vamp 2 intercept even though he only needs 1
> intercept

Different.
You can add X intercept if you need any (even if you only "need" Y << X).
Likewise, you can add X stealth if you need any.

> My JOL-partners said that i was wrong (and for the game it didn't
> matter much), but it left me in doubt.....
>
> Were they right?

Yes.

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