(LSJ) mark of damnation question
pallando
after i'm ousted? normally i'd say yes. but the card can be destroyed with a
d-action (against the controller - me). so if it stays in play how can the
card be destroyed afterwards, i.e. who could block the destruction?
thanks
pallando
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Michael Künzl
>
> i put a mark of damnation on a vampire.
Mark of Damnation: "(D) Put this card on a vampire controlled by your
prey. ... The affected vampire may burn this card as an action."
> does the card stay on the vampire
> after i'm ousted?
When you're ousted, you burn all cards you control at that time.
> normally i'd say yes. but the card can be destroyed with a
> d-action
No: The action to bring the card into play is a (D)-action, so only
your prey can block it, but the action to burn the card is not
directed (card text).
> (against the controller - me).
You are not the controller:
If you put a minion card like Army of Rats in play (but not on a
vampire), you are the controller. And you are the controller of a
master card you play.
But when you play a minion-card (equipment, retainer, Atonement,
MoD...) on a vampire, the controller of the minion card is the
controller of the vampire the card is played on. So your prey is the
controller of MoD.
> so if it stays in play how can the
> card be destroyed afterwards, i.e. who could block the destruction?
the action to burn the card is not directed, so prey and predator can
block it.
Greetings,
Michael
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going on what you just said the D action to destroy it is made against
the person who put it there? so they get a chance to block?
The way some people played it before is that it was against the
controller of the vampire. Thanks
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whatever reason) and am then ousted, does that card stay in play? post
#2 said master cards are controled by you...
LSJ
>
> Actually this brings up a question of mine. For Pentex Subversion,
> going on what you just said the D action to destroy it is made against
> the person who put it there? so they get a chance to block?
>
> The way some people played it before is that it was against the
> controller of the vampire. Thanks
>
> > If you put a minion card like Army of Rats in play (but not on a
> > vampire), you are the controller. And you are the controller of a
> > master card you play.
> >
> > But when you play a minion-card (equipment, retainer, Atonement,
> > MoD...) on a vampire, the controller of the minion card is the
> > controller of the vampire the card is played on. So your prey is the
> > controller of MoD.
Pentex Subversion, being a master card, is controlled by the Methuselah
who played it (since it has no card text to override that default).
If a minion controlled by someone else takes an action to burn a
Pentex Subversion you control, you may block. Rulebook [6.2.2.1]:
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>
> another odd question, say i play a skill card on another vamp (for
> whatever reason) and am then ousted, does that card stay in play? post
> #2 said master cards are controled by you...
No. Cards you control are burned when you are ousted.
Halcyan 2
>>
>> another odd question, say i play a skill card on another vamp (for
>> whatever reason) and am then ousted, does that card stay in play? post
>> #2 said master cards are controled by you...
>
>No. Cards you control are burned when you are ousted.
>
How about stealing? If you steal a discipline card with Ethan Locke or Daintain
Black Magician, it is still controlled by the Methusaleh that played it?
Thus I'm assuming it requires explicit card text (Fragment, Rack, or things
like Disputed Territory and Succubus Club) to actually transfer control?
Thanks!
Halcyan 2
James Coupe
> >No. Cards you control are burned when you are ousted.
> >
>
> How about stealing? If you steal a discipline card with Ethan Locke or Daintain
> Black Magician, it is still controlled by the Methusaleh that played it?
Stealing implicitly changes control of the card to the new
(stealing) Methuselah.
> Thus I'm assuming it requires explicit card text (Fragment, Rack, or things
> like Disputed Territory and Succubus Club) to actually transfer control?
Implicit text works as well.
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