Help! Need Caitiff definition...

[DellCry]

I have the vote card Tradition Upheld. It says:

Choose ready Caitiff. If this vote is successful, burn that Caitiff.

I thought Caitiff is any vampire or allie, but can't find a definition. The
players in my group are a bit upset that a vote can destroy one of their
vampires and want verification on what a Caitiff is. We've looked in the
books, but it's not in the glossaries or indexes.

Thanks in advance!

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[Rachel & Chris]

Caitiff is a clanless vampire, represented by the Ankh symbol. An example
would be Nik. They have low capacities and a limitation of some sort. it
is definitely not any minion.

DellCry wrote in message ...

[James Coupe]

In article <dellcry-ya0240800...@nntp.ix.netcom.com>,
DellCry <del...@ix.netcom.com> writes

>I thought Caitiff is any vampire or allie, but can't find a definition. The
>players in my group are a bit upset that a vote can destroy one of their
>vampires and want verification on what a Caitiff is.

Check the back of the V:TES rulebook - the clan symbols. A Caitiff is
shown to be one of the vampires with the little Ankh symbol. Currently,
this limits the card to:

Hasina Kesi
Igo the Hungry
Navar McClaren
Nik
Smudge the Ignored
Uriah Winter
Antoinette DuChamp
Franciscus
Magdelena Schaefer
Julius
Dan Murdock

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James Coupe (Prince of Mercia, England)

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[Lupus Australis]

On Sat, 31 Oct 1998, DellCry wrote:

> I thought Caitiff is any vampire or allie,

No. The word you are thinking of is "minion".

> but can't find a definition. The
> players in my group are a bit upset that a vote can destroy one of their
> vampires and want verification on what a Caitiff is.

I don't blame them. Tradition Upheld would be truly aweful if it could
burn any minion.

> We've looked in the
> books, but it's not in the glossaries or indexes.

No, but it is there. Look where they list the 7 clans (Brujah, Gangrel,
etc.). Caitiff are an 8th grouping of "clanless" low-generation vampires
mentioned at the end. They are identified by the "Ankh" symbol (as a clan
symbol).

Note that "Pander", from the Sabbat set, are also identified by the Ankh
symbol (against the background of the red Sabbat blood-splotch), but they
are not considered Caitiff, and so would not be effected by Tradition
Upheld.

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[LSJ]

DellCry wrote:
> I have the vote card Tradition Upheld. It says:
>
> Choose ready Caitiff. If this vote is successful, burn that Caitiff.
>

> I thought Caitiff is any vampire or allie, but can't find a definition. The

> players in my group are a bit upset that a vote can destroy one of their

> vampires and want verification on what a Caitiff is. We've looked in the

> books, but it's not in the glossaries or indexes.

Caitiff: A vampire with the Caitiff symbol (a tilted Ankh) where the
clan symbol should be. See the list of clan symbols on the back of
the VTES rulebook.

Minion: any vampire or ally.

--
L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com) VTES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.
Links to revised rulebook, rulings, errata, and DCI (tournament) rules:
http://www.wizards.com/VTES/VTES_Rules.html