Question on titles

JJeff

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Jan 9, 2008, 6:18:43 PM1/9/08

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I was just wondering.
When a vamp with a printed title gains another title (be it a smaller
or larger one) then loses the new tityle later, does he gain back his
printed one or is he now a title-less vamp?

Say I played a Kholo card on a Magaji, and the next turn I bring out a
older title-less vamp. The Kholo shifts to the older vamp, that i
know, but will my Magaji become a magaji again?

Thanks

Jeff

LSJ

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Jan 9, 2008, 6:24:36 PM1/9/08

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JJeff wrote:
> I was just wondering.
> When a vamp with a printed title gains another title (be it a smaller
> or larger one) then loses the new tityle later, does he gain back his
> printed one or is he now a title-less vamp?

No. The old title was lost as soon as the new one was gained. There is no
mechanism to recover the lost title.

> Say I played a Kholo card on a Magaji, and the next turn I bring out a
> older title-less vamp. The Kholo shifts to the older vamp, that i
> know, but will my Magaji become a magaji again?

No.

ira...@gmail.com

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Jan 10, 2008, 4:00:05 AM1/10/08

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On Jan 9, 3:24 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> JJeff wrote:
> > I was just wondering.
> > When a vamp with a printed title gains another title (be it a smaller
> > or larger one) then loses the new tityle later, does he gain back his
> > printed one or is he now a title-less vamp?
>
> No. The old title was lost as soon as the new one was gained. There is no
> mechanism to recover the lost title.

I know a trip through the ash heap would do it, but what about
Banished and then returned to play?

Ira

James Coupe

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Jan 10, 2008, 4:28:56 AM1/10/08

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No.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/22ca6f90759764c9
No. Banishment works like contesting in that regard -- the
effects are remembered.
[LSJ 20050225]

Similarly, it didn't force a weenie Prince with a Praxis Seizure to lose
his title and other badness like that - which is now less of an issue
with Title cards, but used to be a potential issue.

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Azel

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Jan 10, 2008, 5:01:57 AM1/10/08

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LSJ wrote:
> JJeff wrote:
>> I was just wondering.
>> When a vamp with a printed title gains another title (be it a smaller

>> or larger one) then loses the new title later, does he gain back his

>> printed one or is he now a title-less vamp?
>
> No. The old title was lost as soon as the new one was gained. There is
> no mechanism to recover the lost title.

but what about Indy titles (Thetmes: 2 votes) that go dormant? how did
that go again?

if Thetmes goes Into the Fire and becomes Sabbat, and then becomes an
Archbishop of Detroit, what happens if he is then Excommunicated?

oriang...@aliceadsl.fr

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Jan 10, 2008, 5:12:46 AM1/10/08

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I suppose he is Sabbat with 0 vote, then.

LSJ

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Jan 10, 2008, 6:30:14 AM1/10/08

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Azel wrote:
> LSJ wrote:
>> JJeff wrote:
>>> I was just wondering.
>>> When a vamp with a printed title gains another title (be it a smaller
>>> or larger one) then loses the new title later, does he gain back his
>>> printed one or is he now a title-less vamp?
>>
>> No. The old title was lost as soon as the new one was gained. There is
>> no mechanism to recover the lost title.
>
> but what about Indy titles (Thetmes: 2 votes) that go dormant? how did
> that go again?

"Me has 2 votes" titles aren't tied to being independent, so they never go dormant.

> if Thetmes goes Into the Fire and becomes Sabbat, and then becomes an
> Archbishop of Detroit, what happens if he is then Excommunicated?

He loses his title. So he is non-titled.