Order of Reactions Question
Ramsteiner
recently dealing with Burnt Offerings and Telepathic Counter.
Situation -
Player A, "Ben" is bleeding Player B, "Paul" for 2 points.
Paul accepts the bleed and plays Burnt Offerings at Superior, which
causes Ben to lose 1 pool.
Paul then plays Telepathic Counter at Superior to zero out the bleed.
Is this legal?
I am under impression it is not legal as the playing of Burnt
Offerings stipulates the acceptance of at least 1 point of pool loss.
The only acceptable way of playing the Telepathic Counter after the
Burnt Offerings would be at Inferior, leaving the manditory loss of 1
pool. However, this is something I have never encounter before and am
looking for the correct answer?
Michael Eichler
Prince of Ramstein
LSJ
>
> A question of ordering your play of reactions was brought to me
> recently dealing with Burnt Offerings and Telepathic Counter.
>
> Situation -
> Player A, "Ben" is bleeding Player B, "Paul" for 2 points.
> Paul accepts the bleed and plays Burnt Offerings at Superior, which
> causes Ben to lose 1 pool.
> Paul then plays Telepathic Counter at Superior to zero out the bleed.
>
> Is this legal?
No. Burnt Offerings is only playable "if a minion controlled by your
predator successfully bleeds you" - which is after the time TC could
be played.
> I am under impression it is not legal as the playing of Burnt
> Offerings stipulates the acceptance of at least 1 point of pool loss.
> The only acceptable way of playing the Telepathic Counter after the
> Burnt Offerings would be at Inferior, leaving the manditory loss of 1
> pool. However, this is something I have never encounter before and am
> looking for the correct answer?
Even that is not allowable. The time has passed - you cannot back up
and play the TC after the BO.
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Ramsteiner
> Ramsteiner wrote:
> >
> > A question of ordering your play of reactions was brought to me
> > recently dealing with Burnt Offerings and Telepathic Counter.
> >
> > Situation -
> > Player A, "Ben" is bleeding Player B, "Paul" for 2 points.
> > Paul accepts the bleed and plays Burnt Offerings at Superior, which
> > causes Ben to lose 1 pool.
> > Paul then plays Telepathic Counter at Superior to zero out the bleed.
> >
> > Is this legal?
>
> No. Burnt Offerings is only playable "if a minion controlled by your
> predator successfully bleeds you" - which is after the time TC could
> be played.
>
> > I am under impression it is not legal as the playing of Burnt
> > Offerings stipulates the acceptance of at least 1 point of pool loss.
> > The only acceptable way of playing the Telepathic Counter after the
> > Burnt Offerings would be at Inferior, leaving the manditory loss of 1
> > pool. However, this is something I have never encounter before and am
> > looking for the correct answer?
>
> Even that is not allowable. The time has passed - you cannot back up
> and play the TC after the BO.
Ok.
So the timing of Telepathic Counter is within the action of the Bleed.
However, wouldn't the Burnt Offerings also fall into being within the
action of the Bleed as it is a reaction card? I understand the text
of Burnt Offerings indicating the requirement of a successful bleed
needing to occur. What I need is clarification on the timing of two
different cards and why TC has to occur prior to BO.
Thanks
LSJ
They're both "within the action of the bleed".
One is played before the bleed resoves. The other is played after (since
it can only be played when the bleed is successful, by card text).
TC has to be played before the bleed resolves (just as Claws have to be
played before the strike resolves).
Ramsteiner
Thanks.
They got it. Yeah!