Placing a Crown Upon a Troubled Brow
XZealot
Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
Description :
A Count Germaine deck using Anarch Revolts to encourage your prey to
take the Anarch action to avoid taking damage from Anarch Revolts.
You can then use Leila's special to convert them to Sabbat.
You can then use Tobias's special to make them a Bishop so they can't
go back to being an Anarch.
Also, Advanced Count Germaine will get +2 bleed against your prey
because they control a bishop.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 8 average: 6.67
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4x Tobias Smith 7 DOM OBT PRE pot Lasombra:3
3x Count Germaine Adv 8 CEL FOR POT PRE obf Brujah:4
2x Count Germaine 8 CEL FOR POT PRE obf Brujah:4
3x Leila Monroe 4 dom obt pre Lasombra:4
Library [90 cards]
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Action [5]
2x Covenant of Blood
2x Go Anarch
1x Triole's Revenge
Action Modifier [22]
4x Bewitching Oration
4x Forced March
4x Forgotten Labyrinth
5x Iron Glare
5x Voter Captivation
Combat [25]
4x Decapitate
3x Disguised Weapon
4x Psyche!
4x Pursuit
5x Skin of Steel
5x Taste of Vitae
Equipment [5]
5x Assault Rifle
Master [16]
1x Al's Army Apparatus
6x Anarch Revolt
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
7x Minion Tap
Political Action [9]
1x Ancilla Empowerment
2x Banishment
6x Free States Rant
Reaction [8]
8x Deflection
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue May 08 08:12:13 2007]
_________________
Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown, Jr
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp
Bram Vink
Perhaps you should add some trophy tech!
Cheers,
Bram
witness1
> Deck Name : Placing a Crown Upon a Troubled Brow
> Author : Norman S. Brown Jr
> Description :
> A Count Germaine deck using Anarch Revolts to encourage your prey to
> take the Anarch action to avoid taking damage from Anarch Revolts.
>
> You can then use Leila's special to convert them to Sabbat.
>
> You can then use Tobias's special to make them a Bishop so they can't
> go back to being an Anarch.
>
> Also, Advanced Count Germaine will get +2 bleed against your prey
> because they control a bishop.
That's beautiful, but I don't think it works.
"Tobias can give any other non-titled Sabbat vampire _you control_
with a capacity above 5 the title of bishop as an action."
witness1
-sadness
XZealot
Yep, I think you're right.
Another one bites the dust.
XZealot
> Perhaps you should add some trophy tech!
Actually, you could after you gave the Sabbat Count Germain a bishop
title.
Or, perhaps I'll just have to thing of another idea after I roll off
of your mother.
Bram Vink
> > Perhaps you should add some trophy tech!
>
> Actually, you could after you gave the Sabbat Count Germain a bishop
> title.
>
> Or, perhaps I'll just have to thing of another idea after I roll off
> of your mother.
You thing ahead, pathetic little man.
Cheers,
Bram
XZealot
Nice gibberish....
...but what can one expect from someone as "challenged" as you.
Bram Vink
> On May 8, 10:24 am, Bram Vink <jja.v...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>
> > On May 8, 4:59 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Perhaps you should add some trophy tech!
>
> > > Actually, you could after you gave the Sabbat Count Germain a bishop
> > > title.
>
> > > Or, perhaps I'll just have to thing of another idea after I roll off
> > > of your mother.
>
> > You thing ahead, pathetic little man.
>
> Nice gibberish....
>
> ...but what can one expect from someone as "challenged" as you.
Goddamn.
Should I even explain this? I'm starting to kinda feel for you. If you
want me to explain it to you let me know, ill gladly help you out.
Wow.
Bram
pbou...@gmail.com
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
So no trophy tech?
Bram Vink
> On 8 mei, 17:35, Bram Vink <jja.v...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 5:27 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > On May 8, 10:24 am, Bram Vink <jja.v...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 8, 4:59 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Perhaps you should add some trophy tech!
>
> > > > > Actually, you could after you gave the Sabbat Count Germain a bishop
> > > > > title.
>
> > > > > Or, perhaps I'll just have to thing of another idea after I roll off
> > > > > of your mother.
>
> > > > You thing ahead, pathetic little man.
>
> > > Nice gibberish....
>
> > > ...but what can one expect from someone as "challenged" as you.
>
> > Goddamn.
> > Should I even explain this? I'm starting to kinda feel for you. If you
> > want me to explain it to you let me know, ill gladly help you out.
>
> > Wow.
> > Bram
>
lol :P
Cheers,
Bram
XZealot
No need to explain. We all understand your "special" nature.
I'll pass on one of your "explanations" as it will be as nonsensical
as the rest of what you wrote.
Oortje
And the the popcorn keeps coming. Oortje watches the match and wait
for another score. The ball is back to Bram. But ooh look what
happens... Witness1 takes the ball from Bram and scores the final hit
and ended the short life of a troubled brow.
More matches between Bram and Xzealot SOOOON!
back to the popcorn.... munch... munch.
Dont you love Bloodbowl!!!
Oortje
Bram Vink
Sigh.
Read. What. Is. Written. You. Dumb. Fucking. Retard.
Ever wonder what life would've been like if you got enough oxygen at
birth?
Not only are you kicking off the insults, you're also too moronic to
understand my replies, and then insult me further by calling me
special/challenged, when you're the one that doesn't understand what's
going on.
Please, from now on just leave the intelligent conversations to those
able to follow said conversations. You keep on thinking-of-and-posting
retarded deck ideas. It's what you do best, apparently.
Bram
Oortje
someone a dumb F* retard is not very nice, nor original.
I need MORE popcorn!!!.. munch... munch
:)
Bram Vink
True that calling Norm a dumb fucking retard is neither nice nor
original, but he really should read what's written, and if he doesnt
understand it, then he shouldn't make insulting comments which show
that he doesn't understand it, but instead ask what was meant with the
passage he didn't grasp.
But noted, I shall henceforth try to refrain from using all too common
terms when referring to Norm. Thanks for your feedback!
Cheers,
Bram
XZealot
> On May 8, 11:03 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 8, 10:35 am, Bram Vink <jja.v...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>
> > > On May 8, 5:27 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > On May 8, 10:24 am, Bram Vink <jja.v...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > > On May 8, 4:59 pm, XZealot <xzea...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Perhaps you should add some trophy tech!
>
> > > > > > Actually, you could after you gave the Sabbat Count Germain a bishop
> > > > > > title.
>
> > > > > > Or, perhaps I'll just have to thing of another idea after I roll off
> > > > > > of your mother.
>
> > > > > You thing ahead, pathetic little man.
>
> > > > Nice gibberish....
>
> > > > ...but what can one expect from someone as "challenged" as you.
>
> > > Goddamn.
> > > Should I even explain this? I'm starting to kinda feel for you. If you
> > > want me to explain it to you let me know, ill gladly help you out.
>
> > No need to explain. We all understand your "special" nature.
>
> > I'll pass on one of your "explanations" as it will be as nonsensical
> > as the rest of what you wrote.
<snip apparent involutary throat spasm upon learning that his mom
turns more tricks than Bozo the clown>
> Ever wonder what life would've been like if you got enough oxygen at
> birth?
Right now I'm wondering which one of your fathers was actually at your
birth. Did they get the name right on the birth certificate or is
Father's Day a confusing excercise?
> Not only are you kicking off the insults, you're also too moronic to
> understand my replies, and then insult me further by calling me
> special/challenged, when you're the one that doesn't understand what's
> going on.
I understand that you have problem typing, but then again, if you put
100 monkey on a typewriter for 100 years, then one will produce
Shakespeare. Apparently, you're not that monkey.
Keep slapping those keys and maybe your speech impediment won't come
across on the internet.
Bram Vink
Let me spell this out for you
R E A D - W H A T - Y O U - W R O T E.
Look at what I replied to with something you couldn't understand.
I'm sure all will be clarified when you call a friend with a brain to
explain "things" to you.
However, right now I'm doubting your basic ablilty to read in the
first place. Is this because you suffer from either congenital
deficits, educational difficulties, severe trauma, or a collection of
the abovementioned problems?
Secondary problem might be that you don't have friends with brains. I
wouldn't know how they could stand you, so I guess that's a realistic
problem.
Cheers,
Bram
Oortje
and gets......... more popcorn!!! ...munch ..... munch....
"great match'' said oortje again talking from a 3rd person perspective
"to bad I missed the clue why it has started or why they both make a
foo..... wait a minute. Im not going to try to end this discussion.
Its just too funny"
XZealot
> However, right now I'm doubting your basic ablilty to read in the
> first place. Is this because you suffer from either congenital
> deficits, educational difficulties, severe trauma, or a collection of
> the abovementioned problems?
This is hysterical coming from you, the person without a single
thought of his own. When was the last time you started a thread? When
was the last time you created an idea?
The answer is no time recently.
In fact, the only time you have to tried to initiate a conversation in
2007 was March 31st which was nothing more than a rules question.
Otherwise you are just a faceless name in the peanut gallery of "me
too!" quippers without a single thought of your own.
So why don't you crawl back under your bridge, so your undersized
brain doesn't have to do any heavy lifting.
librarian
Hey, just as I was getting used to ignoring their regular "discussions"
with each other, you have to and make the thread interesting again.
Pass the popcorn please...
best -
chris
--
Super Fun Cards
http://myworld.ebay.com/superfuncards/
auct...@superfuncards.com
pbou...@gmail.com
Reminds me of the days i used to post on some MMO forum :)
Sooo to take this to the enxt level i think you 2 should start linking
pics whit funny text ect...
PS : Im still waiting on the Trophy tech.
pbou...@gmail.com
Bram Vink
> > However, right now I'm doubting your basic ablilty to read in the
> > first place. Is this because you suffer from either congenital
> > deficits, educational difficulties, severe trauma, or a collection of
> > the abovementioned problems?
>
> This is hysterical coming from you, the person without a single
> thought of his own. When was the last time you started a thread? When
> was the last time you created an idea?
Hmm. Last time I created a deck idea. You're right, it's quite a while
ago.
Let me check. 23 march is the last deck I built which had an basic
idea that's not common.
Here:
Action Modifier [49]
47x Freak Drive
2x Lost in Crowds
Conviction [3]
1x React with Conviction
1x Second Sight
1x Strike with Conviction
Equipment [17]
9x Aaron's Feeding Razor
1x Body Bag
5x Learjet
1x Sargon Fragment, The
1x Treasured Samadji
Event [2]
1x Anthelios, The Red Star
1x Edge Explosion
Master [14]
1x Anarch Railroad
1x Creepshow Casino
1x Demonstration
1x Ferraille
1x Fortune Teller Shop
1x Jake Washington (Hunter)
1x Labyrinth, The
1x Maabara
3x Parthenon, The
1x Secure Haven
1x Ventrue Headquarters
1x Waste Management Operation
Political Action [3]
2x Kine Resources Contested
1x Rumors of Gehenna
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Fri Mar 23 22:57:29 2007]
Another deck I played once, online, which uses the basic idea of
unburdening/marionette with saulot, I built in april.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 11 average: 6.59
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5x Saulot, The Wander 11 AUS FOR OBE THA VAL dai Salubri:4
2x Neighbor John 5 AUS dom for !Ventrue:4
1x Maldavis 4 AUS for pre Caitiff:3
1x Ember Wright 3 aus dom !Tremere:3
1x Saiz 3 aus dom !Tremere:3
1x Sister Evelyn 3 aus dom !Ventrue:3
1x Feo Ramos 1 aus Pander:3
Library [90 cards]
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Action [19]
1x Arson
1x Entrenching
3x Magic of the Smith
1x Shadow of Taint
8x Spirit Marionette
5x Unburdening the Bestial Soul
Action Modifier [21]
3x Conditioning
7x Freak Drive
9x Neutral Guard
2x Repulsion
Combat [16]
7x Anesthetic Touch
3x Hidden Strength
6x Rolling with the Punches
Equipment [3]
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Helicopter
1x Sniper Rifle
Master [15]
2x Blood Doll
1x Giant's Blood
5x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Rack, The
2x Sight Beyond Sight
2x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
2x Society of Leopold
Reaction [16]
4x Enhanced Senses
4x Forced Awakening
4x On the Qui Vive
4x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Apr 11 23:22:39 2007]
> The answer is no time recently.
Posted on the newsgroup, no.
Neither of these decks I built IRL. I doubt you build all the decks
you post IRL. However, I try my decks, and chuck them, unless I like
them a lot. If I want my decks commented on, I have a good set of
people to run them by on IRC for direct comments, like Matt Morgan,
Ben Peal, Gines Quiñonero, Anthony Coleman and various others. I use
that way to get feedback on my decks.
> In fact, the only time you have to tried to initiate a conversation in
> 2007 was March 31st which was nothing more than a rules question.
> Otherwise you are just a faceless name in the peanut gallery of "me
> too!" quippers without a single thought of your own.
Perhaps, when I have ideas, I refine them myself, or have people I
know build good decks look at them. I don't think posting my decks on
the newsgroup has much added value for them or the newsgroup.
> So why don't you crawl back under your bridge, so your undersized
> brain doesn't have to do any heavy lifting.
Whatever. You also frequent the presence forums, I believe. If you'd
have payed attention you could've seen I have in fact posted some
decks there.
> Comments Welcome,
> Norman S. Brown, Jr
> XZealot
> Archon of the Swamp
Hope you like the decks. Keep in mind both versions are very rough,
since I havent gotten the opportunity to play much these last months.
For instance, I think the first deck might need to lose some cards
again back into freakdrives. Demonstration should probably be a Fee
stake.
Also, when you are incorrect, miunderstand basic things, or perhaps
feel like insulting someone out of the blue, next time realize that
there's smarter people than you out there. Your replies are both
insulting and avoiding any and all correct points made by me. This
generally leaves you with very little things to bitch about, as per
above. Who ever said anything about posting decks on the NG? Do you
feel posting decks on the NG is an expression of intelligence?
Seriously, if NG decks were a measure of intelligence, you're not
coming off well.
However, I'm feeling kind and will forgive you for your idiocy, so
therefore I wish you a good day.
Cheers,
Bram
Bram Vink
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5x Rabbat, The Sewer 7 ANI FOR OBF pot Nosferatu:4
4x Mata Hari 7 CHI OBF aus for qui 2 votes Ravnos:4
3x Maman Boumba 4 inn mar Imbued:4
the crypt belonging to the first deck.
Cheers,
Bram
The Lasombra
> I don't think posting my decks on
>the newsgroup has much added value for them or the newsgroup.
This is the essence of the disagreement.
All positive posts affect the game and the newsgroup positively.
Deck lists are positive posts.
Please indulge the world with your creativity.
See also:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/
Wookie813
I would not be surprised to see a retort begin with "Jane you ignorant
slut...."
Seriously, you two have known each other from kindergarten and
probably work together, right? You call each other and compose these
in tandem, right?
Bram Vink
> On 9 May 2007 10:01:18 -0700, Bram Vink <jja.v...@hccnet.nl> wrote:
>
> > I don't think posting my decks on
> >the newsgroup has much added value for them or the newsgroup.
>
> This is the essence of the disagreement.
No. Right here the disagreement is more personal.
> All positive posts affect the game and the newsgroup positively.
>
> Deck lists are positive posts.
I think Deck lists of decks one didn't even bother to look at the
mechanics of, never tried to find or see the flaws of, and which
basically isn't a deck designed to strive to the actual goal of the
game, are not positive posts.
They are noise. Similar to this thread, and this post, true enough.
Noise is detrimental to the newsgroup.
> Please indulge the world with your creativity.
>
> See also:
>
> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/
Your archiving is laudable, and your presence is definately a positive
thing for the newsgroup. However I don't think there's much to be
gained by me posting my decks on here. Thanks for the invitation
nonetheless.
Cheers,
Bram
Oortje
> I would not be surprised to see a retort begin with "Jane you ignorant
> slut...."
>
> Seriously, you two have known each other from kindergarten and
> probably work together, right? You call each other and compose these
> in tandem, right?
Here are a few things you like to know.
1.The last time I talked to Bram in person was two weaks ago.
2.There is no coörporation between us posting on Vtes.
3. I like Flamewars, so I provoke it.
4. I think that Xzealot posts decks to become the top ranked poster of
the month, not because he made extual good decks. So I dont comment on
his decks.
5. I expected Bram would just ignore Xzealot. I was wrong.
6. I thinks Xzealot is hard to ignore on this forum.
7. I really like eating popcorn.
8. If 2 Vampires play Drawing out the beast things get messy.
9. For the flaming I dont choose a side, I just like to watch it.
Oortje
Janne Hägglund
> I think Deck lists of decks one didn't even bother to look at the
> mechanics of, never tried to find or see the flaws of, and which
> basically isn't a deck designed to strive to the actual goal of the
> game, are not positive posts.
> They are noise. Similar to this thread, and this post, true enough.
> Noise is detrimental to the newsgroup.
Well, I like reading and studying XZealot's decks. I simply treat them as
raw ideas or work in progress, not tried, tested and polished decks.
If you think they are noise, then killfile all his post with "DECK" in the
subject. But please don't confuse your personal preferences with universal
standards of behavior.
HG
--
hg@ "If you can't offend part of your audience,
iki.fi there is no point in being an artist at all." -Hakim Bey
J
>From memory I helped you design that on IRC... I then modified it and
played it in a RT game on Jol and did quite well... until it got down
to a 2 player game and the other remaining player had a very tooled up
Sebastion Goulet + friends.
It annoyed the hell outa the other players with the Freak/Hunt/Feeding
Razor trick.
--> J
grail_pbem "at" hotmail.com
Johannes Walch
> Bram Vink <jja....@hccnet.nl> writes:
>
>> I think Deck lists of decks one didn't even bother to look at the
>> mechanics of, never tried to find or see the flaws of, and which
>> basically isn't a deck designed to strive to the actual goal of the
>> game, are not positive posts.
>> They are noise. Similar to this thread, and this post, true enough.
>> Noise is detrimental to the newsgroup.
>
>
> Well, I like reading and studying XZealot's decks. I simply treat them as
> raw ideas or work in progress, not tried, tested and polished decks.
>
> If you think they are noise, then killfile all his post with "DECK" in the
> subject. But please don't confuse your personal preferences with universal
> standards of behavior.
>
> HG
I like them as well. They are a constant stream of inspiration for me.
Of course they cant be copy&pasted for a tournament win but I consider
that quite a lame behaviour anyway.
If you don´t like them, I am sure you newsreader lets you ignore threads
started by Xzealot.
Johannes
atomweaver
news:f1v1d0$7t2$1...@news01.versatel.de:
Thirded. I expect you'll have to pry the keyboard from Norm's cold, dead
hands, before you'll get him to stop posting deck ideas.
> If you don´t like them, I am sure you newsreader lets you ignore
> threads started by Xzealot.
>
Sadly, no. Bram is not using The Real Usenet. He's on Google Groups
(poor guy, no wonder he's so bitter ;-) J/K, Bram.
Headers Tell the Tale;
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From: Bram Vink <jja....@hccnet.nl>
Newsgroups: rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad
Subject: Re: Bram VS Norman, again
Date: 10 May 2007 00:26:09 -0700
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snipped rest
For a good free Usenet newsreader, I recommend XNews (freeware, available
at download.com)
DaveZ
Atom Weaver
atomweaver
news:1178782566.5...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I would not be surprised to see a retort begin with "Jane you
>> ignorant slut...."
>>
>> Seriously, you two have known each other from kindergarten and
>> probably work together, right? You call each other and compose these
>> in tandem, right?
>
> Here are a few things you like to know.
> 1.The last time I talked to Bram in person was two weaks ago.
> 2.There is no coörporation between us posting on Vtes.
I think Wookie's "you two" was referring to Norm and Bram, not Bram and
Oortje...
> 3. I like Flamewars, so I provoke it.
> 4. I think that Xzealot posts decks to become the top ranked poster of
> the month, not because he made [ac]tual good decks. So I dont comment
> on his decks.
If you want a high post count, generating a VTES deck for each post is
hardly a good strategy.
DZ
AW
Wookie813
> Oortje <internetoor...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:1178782566.5...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
> >> I would not be surprised to see a retort begin with "Jane you
> >> ignorant slut...."
>
> >> Seriously, you two have known each other from kindergarten and
> >> probably work together, right? You call each other and compose these
> >> in tandem, right?
>
> > Here are a few things you like to know.
> > 1.The last time I talked to Bram in person was two weaks ago.
> > 2.There is no coörporation between us posting on Vtes.
>
> I think Wookie's "you two" was referring to Norm and Bram, not Bram and
> Oortje...
> AW
Correct.
Blooded Sand
frothing at the lips that I enjoy.
BTW, Xzealot's decks are very usefull for using as a base idea for
building something innovative with. Bram is really good at finding
weakpoints. And they are both EXCELLENT at pissing each other off.
more bubbles please?
pbou...@gmail.com
competative(sp ?) players i think you would be ousted soon enough.
So either he doesnt mind playing short games and waiting for the rest
to finish or his local play group is not playing to win as fast as
possible.
Personaly i will only play a deck if im convinced that i have a fair
chance of gaining a vp or 2 or even the Table win (ofcourse it depends
on seating order and what the rest is doing).
So in short, vampire is about ousting your prey. Not about having a
nice trick and then dieing quickly and basicly screwing the other
players by giving your predator a easy vp and your prey lots of time
to build.
Bram Vink
>
> > I don't think posting my decks on
> >the newsgroup has much added value for them or the newsgroup.
>
> This is the essence of the disagreement.
>
> All positive posts affect the game and the newsgroup positively.
>
> Deck lists are positive posts.
>
> Please indulge the world with your creativity.
>
> See also:
>
> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/
Hmm. Can you manually edit your archive?
the Rabbat deck I posted misses
1x Anarch Secession
1x Fee Stake: Corte
Which fell off along with the crypt, by virtue of mispaste.
Cheers,
Bram
Petri Wessman
> I like them as well. They are a constant stream of inspiration for me.
> Of course they cant be copy&pasted for a tournament win but I consider
> that quite a lame behaviour anyway.
Me three (four?) :)
I also have a lot of fun reading these, and use them for inspiration
for weird deck ideas, since weird decks interest me, straightforward
and efficient decks generally don't. And yes, I also consider using
someone else's deck (as cut+paste) in tournaments to be lame. So keep
'em coming, I say, and ignore the rabble :D
atomweaver
@e51g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
> Well his deck idea's are ehm fun but if played in regular game whit
> competative(sp ?) players i think you would be ousted soon enough.
> So either he doesnt mind playing short games and waiting for the rest
> to finish or his local play group is not playing to win as fast as
> possible.
Yeh. Or, they have multiple tiers of deck competitiveness, and all
deliberately experiment with weaker deck archetypes in search of combos
which might have a unexpected level of effectivness. Or, the deck ideas
are put to 'paper' in an attempt to potentially get some input from
others into their pitfalls (beyone the obvious you've stated above; "Tier
1 decks would crush this").
> Personaly i will only play a deck if im convinced that i have a fair
> chance of gaining a vp or 2 or even the Table win (ofcourse it depends
> on seating order and what the rest is doing).
Bah. I think you obsess over short term gains too much. Keep playing in
that shallow end, if you'd like. We're talking about long-term research
here, which will obviously result in a large percentage of failures.
However, there's unbelievable depth to VTES. I enjoy and appreciate
Norm's effort at trying to squeeze a bit of performance out of the more
esoteric angles of the game.
> So in short, vampire is about ousting your prey. Not about having a
> nice trick and then dieing quickly and basicly screwing the other
> players by giving your predator a easy vp and your prey lots of time
> to build.
Meh. Norm's a good enough player, he can make a reasonable threat from a
!Ven starter deck, if needed.
DZ
AW
Yeh. Bah. Meh.
The Lasombra
>Hmm. Can you manually edit your archive?
>the Rabbat deck I posted misses
>1x Anarch Secession
>1x Fee Stake: Corte
Not really.
Have to re-enter the deck entirely.
It has been accomplished.