is there any site that discuss/teach deck playing strategy for newbie?

[cpf86]

Hi all,

I'm new to the game and have been reading up the Lasombra site of deck
list a lot. however, i cant find any site that actually talks about
how the deck functions and how to play the game. You know, magic the
gathering has alot of fan site that teaches new players effective
strategies, tournament deck analysis and step by step report of top
tournament matches that new players can learn alot from.

is there any of such site for VTES? i'm intrigued by all the various
deck types, but other than stealth bleeding and combat rush that i've
toyed with, i've not idea how the deck functions. Even with combat
deck (i played a !Nos modified black hand starter), i have no idea
when and who i should rush, how to deal with S:CE prey. when to cross
table rush or many many other things. Even though my play group here
in Singapore are very friendly and helpful, it'll be nice if i can
learn some basics on my own instead of keep troubling the veterans
here.

any help and pointers to such site will be much appreciated!

[Teeka]

I don't know about a website that does just that, but the Player's
Guide (it's a book) is good for this. It was written by a number of
veterans and contains info on almost all clans*, has outlines and
examples of all common strategies and a section about 'in game
tactics'. Plus, it's got lots of purdy pictures and looks great in
your bookcase. :-)
It should still be available.

* it was published right after KMW came out, so it doesn't cover any
stuff since that set (including the Laibon and Imbued). But the main
strategy articles and info about clans and disciplines are still just
as useful (it's not like the main concept of Bruise-Bleed has
changed).

Hope that helps!

-Teeka
(would love a Player's Guide #2, come to think of it)

[Jonathan_Sicari]

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There is some info on www.thepathofblood.com that might be useful as
well (although the site is geared for the assamite clan obviously).
Also, I believe Lasombra has some strategy articles linked from his
site and some of the linked sites also have some.

Jonathan

[Cry Wolf]

On Aug 24, 4:09 pm, cpf86 <fun...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> any help and pointers to such site will be much appreciated!

I personally go to http://extrala.blogspot.com for getting to know the
basic deck archetypes. Ralf always has good write-ups complete with
How to Win Against This Archetype, How to Win With This Archetype, and
a lot of actual TWDs that exhibit what the archetype shows.

As for how decks function (even uber-fail plays), there are many blogs
that write about such experiences. You can check the blogroll on the
right side of extrala for the more popular ones.

Happy bleeding (and learning)!

Cry Wolf

[Brum]

On Aug 24, 9:09 am, cpf86 <fun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,

> is there any of such site for VTES?

Hello and welcome.

Besides the above mentioned Extrala blog, there's more information you
probably didn't see in thelasombra: http://www.thelasombra.com/strategy.htm

In thelasombra and extrala's blog you have lots of tips on deck
building, strategy and rules.
Once you start playing and build your own deck, this newsgroup is a
great place to post it so that more experienced players can tip you
directly on the deck's strengths and weaknesses and strategy to win
with it.
You can also ask any question you might have about any card
interaction or rules.
One of the great things about this game is its community.

Cheers!
Tiago

[James Cass]

The guide in pdf format is located here for just $17.5.
http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=2931

And there is an update for $4 http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=12403&it=1

[Peter D Bakija]

On Aug 24, 4:09 am, cpf86 <fun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> any help and pointers to such site will be much appreciated!

I'll point out the old clan newsletters that are archived on:

http://www.thelasombra.com/newsletter.htm

Have a lot of basic strategy information, by clan. There are a lot of
decks that have detailed strategy descriptions, a lot of discussion of
individual vampires and what they are good for, etc. The quality and
utility of any specific newsletter is going to be kind of random, but
if you go through enough of them, you'll find a lot of helpful stuff.

-Peter

[brandonsantacruz]

I'll second(third? fourth? fifth?) the suggestion to check out links
from http://www.thelasombra.com/strategy.htm

Also check out: http://www.thelasombra.com/utilities.htm specifically
Anarch Revolt Deck Builder and Secret Library for some good info on
cards and to help build/save decks.

Here's a link all about deck building: http://www.thelasombra.com/deck-building-theories.htm

The Ash Heap also has some useful advice(i.e. "defending without
bounce") http://www.ashheap.storageannex.com/resources.htm

I check Extrala just about every day: http://extrala.blogspot.com/

There's a heaping helping of strategy for you. If you feel like
hearing me rant, check out my blog(shameless plug):
http://brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/

There's a few thousand words of VTES strategy for you, enjoy!

Brandon

[Ruben Feldman]

I would also suggest starting by playing simple decks so that you can
learn about all the basics of the game without having added
complication from your deck.
I do not advise rush decks as playing it properly requires a very good
understanding of the game being played for example (also upon very few
mistakes you will fin yourself ousted).

[cpf86]

thanks for all the replies! so much info but so little time!

and yah ruben, my first deck was rush deck, while i learnt combat
fast, the other aspect i cant really grasp. totally get ousted. my 2nd
deck was !tremere bleed. it's much easier and i learn about new
concept. i'm going to try !toredor vote the coming saturday to see how
vote and defence works. this game is very interesting, tks for all the
pointers!