Advanced mechanic and merging
Jon Stahler
Advanced Vampire
An advancement card is a vampire card in all respects, so it can be
influenced in the normal manner. In addition, you can merge the advancement
with the associated regular "base" vampire if you control one and the other
is in your uncontrolled region. This costs 4 transfers and 1 pool during
your influence phase. When merged, the counters and cards on the vampire
remain, and the two crypt cards are treated as a single vampire card, even
if Banished, until the vampire is burned.
When merged, the vampire has the special abilities of both the base and
advanced cards. The rest of the base card is ignored (capacity, Disciplines,
etc.). The advancement card applies in full. Some merged cards have an
additional effect that only applies when the two cards are merged. This
effect is identified in the card text by a "merged" icon.
The advanced vampire (merged or not) will contest other copies of the same
vampire (advanced or not) in play, as usual.
Uh....wow....this could be cool. Makes room for Advanced Bloodlines
eventually. Yummy.
Kulaid
If anarch has an advanced archon vampire... I'm afraid of a tyler
combo... Would make cyrpts more interesting at the very least...
It's a neat idea...
Tariq would be popular(even with the 4 cap hit..)
Muaziz is gonna be in all advanced rush decks...
Pochtli, dragos... Ian of course...
Just gonna increase the chance of a very bad crypt draw...
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Kulaid
>>
>> Advanced Vampire
>>
>> An advancement card is a vampire card in all respects, so it can be
>> influenced in the normal manner. In addition, you can
>> merge the advancement
>> with the associated regular "base" vampire if you control
>
> If anarch has an advanced archon vampire... I'm afraid of a tyler
> combo... Would make cyrpts more interesting at the very least...
>
> It's a neat idea...
>
> Tariq would be popular(even with the 4 cap hit..)
> Muaziz is gonna be in all advanced rush decks...
> Pochtli, dragos... Ian of course...
>
> Just gonna increase the chance of a very bad crypt draw...
BLAH... Just thought of a interesting one...
Advanced crypt with NEC... They stack on top Ezmerelda... When he's
low... You toast him via Ezmerelda's special... The advanced is removed
from the game but Ezmerelda isn't... Possession her back up... Then do
it again your next turn... Or possession at basic to be able to do it
all over again...
Joshua Duffin
"Kulaid" <kulaid.ne...@web2news.net> wrote in message
news:2550...@web2news.com...
> > If anarch has an advanced archon vampire... I'm afraid of a tyler
> > combo... Would make cyrpts more interesting at the very least...
> >
> > It's a neat idea...
> >
> > Tariq would be popular(even with the 4 cap hit..)
> > Muaziz is gonna be in all advanced rush decks...
> > Pochtli, dragos... Ian of course...
> >
> > Just gonna increase the chance of a very bad crypt draw...
>
> BLAH... Just thought of a interesting one...
>
> Advanced crypt with NEC... They stack on top Ezmerelda... When he's
> low... You toast him via Ezmerelda's special... The advanced is removed
> from the game but Ezmerelda isn't... Possession her back up... Then do
> it again your next turn... Or possession at basic to be able to do it
> all over again...
???
I get the idea you're misinterpreting the Advancement mechanic?
The way it works is, if there exists a vampire with the Advanced
symbol on it, and the same name as a non-Advanced vampire, it
can be merged with the non-Advanced version of itself by paying
1 pool and 4 transfers during your influence phase.
You can't just merge any old Advanced vamp onto any old non-
Advanced vamp to combine their abilities.
Even if you *could* do what you're suggesting with Ezmerelda,
since you treat both cards as a single vampire card in all
respects, I'd expect that the base Ezmerelda would be just as
out-of-game as the advanced one. After all, if you "remove
Ezmerelda from the game", you're going to have to remove the
entire vampire, which happens to be made up of two physical
cards.
Josh
confuzzled
CurtAdams
>>> An advancement card is a vampire card in all respects, so it can be
>>> influenced in the normal manner. In addition, you can
>>> merge the advancement
>>> with the associated regular "base" vampire if you control
>>> etc..
>
>> If anarch has an advanced archon vampire...
>>I'm afraid of a tyler
>> combo... Would make cyrpts more
>>interesting at the very least...
>Advanced crypt with NEC... They stack on top Ezmerelda...
>When he's low... You toast him via Ezmerelda's special...
>The advanced is removed from the game but Ezmerelda isn't...
You folks are missing something - you can only advance
the *associated base vampire*. Only advanced Tyler can
advance Tyler, only advanced Ez can advance Ez, etc.
I assume WW will avoid any particularly gross advancement
combinations (such as an Archon Tyler)
Curt Adams (curt...@aol.com)
"It is better to be wrong than to be vague" - Freeman Dyson
Kulaid
Blah, I scan throuhg it.. guess I didn't read too much into the
details... But burning the advanced stack and possessiong them both
back out is still a good idea... =D
LSJ
> Blah, I scan throuhg it.. guess I didn't read too much into the
> details... But burning the advanced stack and possessiong them both
> back out is still a good idea... =D
If you possess one of them back and then the other, you'd end up
contesting them with yourself, so the second one possessed would
simply be burned.
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Jozxyqk
> Kulaid wrote:
>> Blah, I scan throuhg it.. guess I didn't read too much into the
>> details... But burning the advanced stack and possessiong them both
>> back out is still a good idea... =D
> If you possess one of them back and then the other, you'd end up
> contesting them with yourself, so the second one possessed would
> simply be burned.
But, if your "Advanced" vampire (with 2 cards stacked) gets burned, can
you choose to Possess out either one? Or can you Posssess the two cards
as a single vampire?
reyda
no, because when the merged vampire cards are burned, they become separate
crypt cards.