Blood Draining off Uncontrolled Vamps Q

[Matt Strehlow]

It came up in a game (Governing at Sup to a low cap vamp) that the
vampir ehad way more blood then capacity at the influence phase. Eveyone
knows that the blood in excess of capacity drains off, but to where? 2
people playing said it went to the methusalah's pool. The Sabbat War
rulebook says "counters in excess of his capacity drain off immediately
as usual." p. 49 Isn't as usual to the blood bank?

[Pat Ricochet]

The 2 people are in la-la land. [1.5] says:

" A vampire cannot have more blood than his capacity; if an effect puts more
blood on him than his capacity allows, the excess is always moved to the
blood bank immediately."

--
Pat Ricochet
Soul Jar'rn Fool of Atlanta

[Gomi no Sensei]

In article <3A96D79B...@students.wisc.edu>,

Matt Strehlow <mestr...@students.wisc.edu> wrote:
> It came up in a game (Governing at Sup to a low cap vamp) that the

>vampire had way more blood then capacity at the influence phase. Eveyone

>knows that the blood in excess of capacity drains off, but to where? 2
>people playing said it went to the methusalah's pool. The Sabbat War
>rulebook says "counters in excess of his capacity drain off immediately
>as usual." p. 49 Isn't as usual to the blood bank?

Blood on a vampire doesn't drain off until it's controlled. An uncontrolled
vampire with blood counters equal to or exceeding its capacity must be
moved to the controlled area at the end of its controller's next influence
phase, at which time any blood in excess of capacity drains off to the
blood bank.

Before ending your influence phase, however, you can spend transfers to move
blood off the overfull vampire to your pool. This costs 2 transfers per blood
moved.

gomi
--
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I look upon you with a disgust that amounts to absolute detestation.
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[Jozxyqk]

Pat Ricochet <sp...@socrates.gatech.edu> wrote:

However, DURING your influence phase, you can use Transfer actions to take the
excess blood into your pool (2 transfers/point), before they drain...

[Andrew 'Wes' Weston]

Is there however an obligation to remove those blood counters, even if you
don't intend to bring the vampire into the controlled region?

Even if there is an obligation, its kind of hard to play this without
everyone verifying who it is... people have to trust you that yes he/she is
younger than the acting vampire, and yes the blood on him/her is less than
its full capacity.

Calling over a 'judge' doesn't seem like an adequate measure to fix this.
I've always played this one on trust as it really is too much of a hassle
not to.

Cheers,
WES

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[LSJ]

Pat Ricochet wrote:

Correct.

[LSJ]

Andrew 'Wes' Weston wrote:

> Is there however an obligation to remove those blood counters, even if you
> don't intend to bring the vampire into the controlled region?

No. But there is an obligation to move the vampire to the controlled
region at the end of the influence phase if he's full (or past full). [7]

> Even if there is an obligation, its kind of hard to play this without
> everyone verifying who it is... people have to trust you that yes he/she is
> younger than the acting vampire, and yes the blood on him/her is less than
> its full capacity.
>
> Calling over a 'judge' doesn't seem like an adequate measure to fix this.
> I've always played this one on trust as it really is too much of a hassle
> not to.

Calling a judge to verify is adequate.

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