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[LSJ] Masking Skidmark

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Emmit Svenson

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May 19, 2004, 9:38:46 AM5/19/04
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Skidmark plays Computer Hacking. Can another vamp take over the action
with Mask of 1,000 Faces? The CH and Mask would be replaced if one
did, I assume.

Another minion plays Computer Hacking, and the card is replaced. Can
Skidmark take over the action with Mask of 1,000 Faces?

If Skidmark takes over an action with Mask, is the Mask played before
Skidmark is the acting minion, i.e. is the Mask replaced?

Thanks for your help.

Joshua Duffin

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May 19, 2004, 10:58:31 AM5/19/04
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"Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Skidmark plays Computer Hacking. Can another vamp take over the action
> with Mask of 1,000 Faces? The CH and Mask would be replaced if one
> did, I assume.

Ah, an opportunity to test my absorption of the Mask rules! :-)

I would say that you cannot Mask Skidmark after his "ability" has had an
effect, since that is an effect that has been used which could not have
been used by any other vampire. So no, you cannot Mask to another
vampire if Skidmark plays an action card (Computer Hacking) to start an
action. However, if Skidmark takes a cardless bleed action, another
vampire should be able to Mask to take that over if there haven't been
any "not replaced" cards played yet. (The Mask is not played by
Skidmark and when it is played, Skidmark is no longer the acting minion,
so I think the Mask would be replaced as normal, and would not "taint"
the action with use of Skidmark's ability. I could be wrong about this
part, though.)

> Another minion plays Computer Hacking, and the card is replaced. Can
> Skidmark take over the action with Mask of 1,000 Faces?

Not sure... replacing the Computer Hacking is the default thing to do,
so it might not count as "an effect used that could not have been used
if Skidmark were the acting minion". But on the other hand, it might
count, since replacing the card is certainly an effect, and it could not
have been done if Skidmark were the acting minion at the time.

> If Skidmark takes over an action with Mask, is the Mask played before
> Skidmark is the acting minion, i.e. is the Mask replaced?

I would say no, because the Mask's effects take hold at the same time
that the Mask would normally be replaced. Now that Skidmark is acting,
you don't replace any cards that you play until the end of the action.
(but, again I could be wrong here, since the Mask may count as being
played before Skidmark was acting.)


Josh

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LSJ

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May 19, 2004, 2:16:07 PM5/19/04
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"Joshua Duffin" <duff...@bls.gov> wrote:
> "Emmit Svenson" <emmits...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:75bdf7ed.04051...@posting.google.com...
> > Skidmark plays Computer Hacking. Can another vamp take over the action
> > with Mask of 1,000 Faces? The CH and Mask would be replaced if one
> > did, I assume.
>
> Ah, an opportunity to test my absorption of the Mask rules! :-)
>
> I would say that you cannot Mask Skidmark after his "ability" has had an
> effect, since that is an effect that has been used which could not have
> been used by any other vampire. So no, you cannot Mask to another
> vampire if Skidmark plays an action card (Computer Hacking) to start an
> action. However, if Skidmark takes a cardless bleed action, another
> vampire should be able to Mask to take that over if there haven't been
> any "not replaced" cards played yet. (The Mask is not played by
> Skidmark and when it is played, Skidmark is no longer the acting minion,
> so I think the Mask would be replaced as normal, and would not "taint"
> the action with use of Skidmark's ability. I could be wrong about this
> part, though.)

Correct.

> > Another minion plays Computer Hacking, and the card is replaced. Can
> > Skidmark take over the action with Mask of 1,000 Faces?
>
> Not sure... replacing the Computer Hacking is the default thing to do,
> so it might not count as "an effect used that could not have been used
> if Skidmark were the acting minion". But on the other hand, it might
> count, since replacing the card is certainly an effect, and it could not
> have been done if Skidmark were the acting minion at the time.

I wouldn't count it, no. Mask away.



> > If Skidmark takes over an action with Mask, is the Mask played before
> > Skidmark is the acting minion, i.e. is the Mask replaced?
>
> I would say no, because the Mask's effects take hold at the same time
> that the Mask would normally be replaced. Now that Skidmark is acting,
> you don't replace any cards that you play until the end of the action.
> (but, again I could be wrong here, since the Mask may count as being
> played before Skidmark was acting.)

Correct.

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