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Bartłomiej veyDer Rudzki

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Jun 1, 2007, 11:46:12 AM6/1/07
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What happens if I have an Imbued in my ash heap and I play the
outferior Resurrection on him? Is it placed in my hand? Can I recruit
him with my minions?

Resurrection
Type: Action
Requires: Obeah/Valeren
Cost: 1 blood
+1 stealth action. Only usable if a retainer or ally has been burned
from play since your last turn.
[val] Move the retainer or ally card from your ash heap to your hand.
[obe] Move the retainer card from its Methuselah's ash heap to this
acting vampire, with life from the blood bank equal to its starting
life. Use the normal version, if it requires a Discipline.
[OBE] As [obe] above, but move the ally card instead. Put it in your
ready region, untapped.

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The Lasombra

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Jun 1, 2007, 12:25:37 PM6/1/07
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On Jun 1, 11:46 am, Bartłomiej veyDer Rudzki <vey...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What happens if I have an Imbued in my ash heap and I play the
> outferior Resurrection on him?

You get a warning from the judge for cheating.

Imbued are Crypt Cards in the ash heap, not Ally Cards. Ally cards
have the ally symbol on them. Imbued lack that symbol. Resurrection
cannot interact with Imbued.

> Is it placed in my hand?

No.

> Can I recruit him with my minions?

No.

> Resurrection
> Type: Action
> Requires: Obeah/Valeren
> Cost: 1 blood
> +1 stealth action. Only usable if a retainer or ally has been burned
> from play since your last turn.

> [val] Move the retainer or ALLY CARD from your ash heap to your hand.


> [obe] Move the retainer card from its Methuselah's ash heap to this
> acting vampire, with life from the blood bank equal to its starting
> life. Use the normal version, if it requires a Discipline.

> [OBE] As [obe] above, but move the ALLY CARD instead. Put it in your
> ready region, untapped.

John Flournoy

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Jun 1, 2007, 12:57:55 PM6/1/07
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On Jun 1, 11:25 am, The Lasombra <thelasom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 11:46 am, Bartłomiej veyDer Rudzki <vey...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What happens if I have an Imbued in my ash heap and I play the
> > outferior Resurrection on him?
>
> You get a warning from the judge for cheating.
>
> Imbued are Crypt Cards in the ash heap, not Ally Cards. Ally cards
> have the ally symbol on them. Imbued lack that symbol. Resurrection
> cannot interact with Imbued.

Incorrect. Per this post by LSJ:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/501137ce5ef4ed8a?hl=en&

"Imbued are allies.
Imbued cards are ally cards."

Resurrection is not prohibited from interacting with Imbued for this
reason. However:

> > Is it placed in my hand?
>
> No.

This is correct, but for a different reason than Jeff gave - you
cannot place crypt cards in your hand, ever.

> > Can I recruit him with my minions?
>
> No.

Also correct, because Imbued are never recruited.

So Resurrection cannot be played at the [val] outferior, because it
would illegally place a crypt card into your hand.

It can, however, be played at [OBE], since it places the ally card
(imbued) from your ash heap to the ready region (legally).

(As an aside, you can also use Compel the Spirit for the similar
effect, see the previously cited post from LSJ).

-John Flournoy

LSJ

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Jun 1, 2007, 1:02:22 PM6/1/07
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Bartłomiej veyDer Rudzki wrote:
> What happens if I have an Imbued in my ash heap and I play the
> outferior Resurrection on him? Is it placed in my hand? Can I recruit
> him with my minions?

You can't move him to your hand.

Even though he is an ally, crypt cards cannot be placed into your hand (nor into
your library).

The only things that can hold both crypt and library cards are the controlled
and uncontrolled regions (and the "out of play" region, if you want to get nuts
about it).

Frederick Scott

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Jun 1, 2007, 1:26:49 PM6/1/07
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
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> Bartlomiej veyDer Rudzki wrote:
>> What happens if I have an Imbued in my ash heap and I play the
>> outferior Resurrection on him? Is it placed in my hand? Can I recruit
>> him with my minions?
>
> You can't move him to your hand.
>
> Even though he is an ally, crypt cards cannot be placed into your hand (nor into your library).
>
> The only things that can hold both crypt and library cards are the controlled and uncontrolled regions (and the "out of play"
> region, if you want to get nuts about it).

Eh? What about the place we started here? The ash heap?

Fred, pretty nutsy about everything


LSJ

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Jun 1, 2007, 1:34:43 PM6/1/07
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Yeah. OK. That too.

> Fred, pretty nutsy about everything

Correct.

librarian

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Jun 1, 2007, 2:08:44 PM6/1/07
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LSJ wrote:
> Frederick Scott wrote:

>
>> Fred, pretty nutsy about everything
>
> Correct.

Now THAT's funny.

best -

chris

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tigernat1

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Jun 1, 2007, 2:12:09 PM6/1/07
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On Jun 1, 11:08 am, librarian <aucti...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
> LSJ wrote:
> > Frederick Scott wrote:
>
> >> Fred, pretty nutsy about everything
>
> > Correct.
>
> Now THAT's funny.
>
> best -
>
> chris
>

I got a pretty good chuckle from this one too!!!

Vegas gNat


Salem

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Jun 1, 2007, 2:26:24 PM6/1/07
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LSJ wrote:
> Frederick Scott wrote:

>> Fred, pretty nutsy about everything
>
> Correct.

heh. lsj zing!

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