Temptation/Talaq questions

Dick Johnson

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Oct 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/4/96

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These are questions for Tom Wylie, or any one that has seen a ruling
on them.

1. The Temptation cards says, "Each master phase,..........
put a temptation counter on this card."

Is this each methuselah's master phase, or each acting player's phase?

2. The Talaq, The Immortal cards says, ".....may play cards
that require.......thaumaturgy, as a vampire."

If Burst of Sunlight is played by Talaq, doing "......1R, aggravated
to all vampires in combat"; does Talaq go to torpor since he is
acting as a vampire?

Thanks,
Dick

L. Scott Johnson

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Oct 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/4/96

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d...@dlep1.itg.ti.com (Dick Johnson) writes:
>These are questions for Tom Wylie, or any one that has seen a ruling
>on them.

Tom has been replaced by Shawn Carnes, who responds only infrequently
to earnest questions.

>1. The Temptation cards says, "Each master phase,..........
> put a temptation counter on this card."
>
>Is this each methuselah's master phase, or each acting player's phase?

<This wording is necessary because of the lack of errata governing
who controls the Temptation card>:

It refers to the Master Phase of the methuselah who controlled the
vampire who put the Temptation card into play.

("Each Master Phase of the acting Player" is correct if it means the above)

>2. The Talaq, The Immortal cards says, ".....may play cards
> that require.......thaumaturgy, as a vampire."

>If Burst of Sunlight is played by Talaq, doing "......1R, aggravated
>to all vampires in combat"; does Talaq go to torpor since he is
>acting as a vampire?

No ruling has been given on this - so it means that Talaq takes no
damage from the Burst, since he is not "playing ... a vampire" by
the time the strike's effect resolves.

A close second (but not correct, IMHO) is that he does indeed take
the 1 agg damage since he is treated "as a vampire" when the
strike is chosen, and targets are determined at that point. He would
not go to torpor, however - he would just burn one life.

I believe the first is correct because, since he is no longer a valid
target when the effect resolves (a la Steal Equipment), the strike has
no effect on him.

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Jac08

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Oct 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/5/96

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hello, everybody

umm, ok. i'm really not sure what temptation should say. since there
doesn't seem to be a problem with reality, i'd like it to be every master
phase, yours and every other, since i like setites. if there is some
reason why it shouldn't be, then please do errata it to be only in owner's
master phase.

as for talaq, it says "may play cards . . . as if a vampire", not
"receives damage in combat as if a vampire". besides, the rules say that
allies don't go to torpor, that if a vampire would in that situation, he
or she is burned. so that wouldn't send him to torpor, and neither would
rutor's hand. oh *crap*. i can already see the deck forming . . .
nooooooooooooo

ok, bye now

jacob

Blueroom28

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Oct 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/7/96

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NO TALAQ DOES NOT GO INTO TORPOR BECAUSE HE IS NOT A VAMPIRE, AND THEREBY
CANNOT USE THIS CARD...

Dick Johnson

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Oct 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/8/96

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In article <53c7f2$b...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, bluer...@aol.com
says...

>
>NO TALAQ DOES NOT GO INTO TORPOR BECAUSE HE IS NOT A VAMPIRE, AND
THEREBY
>CANNOT USE THIS CARD...

I believe you're mistaken; Talaq can use the card!