Force of Will and modifiers

Amberan

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Aug 16, 2010, 5:55:42 AM8/16/10

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Hi,

I have a question about Force of Will and the course of action:

A tapped minion A with 1 blood plays Force of Will (on minor [for]).

[Action
Fortitude
1 blood
[for] Only usable by a tapped vampire. (D) Bleed with +1 bleed. This
vampire takes 2 points of aggravated damage (damage not preventable),
even if the action is blocked. Damage occurs after the action or
combat
is resolved.
[FOR] As above, but the (D) bleed is at +2 bleed and the acting
vampire
takes 1 point of aggravated damage (damage not preventable). ]

Some prey's minion B attempts to block. And now the interesting part
comes:

If the minion A plays e.g. Spectral Divination

[Action Modifier/Reaction]
Necromancy
1 Blood
[nec] [ACTION MODIFIER] +1 stealth.
[NEC] [REACTION] +1 intercept.]

to gain +1 stealth, he pays the 1 blood he has. Action remains
unblocked.
Now will the aggravated damage from Force of Will occur, even if the
minion A now does not have the blood to pay it?

Thanks a lot.

Amberan

Izaak

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Aug 16, 2010, 6:10:46 AM8/16/10

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"Amberan" <amb...@gmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:864de02f-f20c-4644...@k10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

Yes.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/browse_thread/thread/df9becceccc664e0/374dfc35dd0fae60

Amberan

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Aug 16, 2010, 7:52:27 AM8/16/10

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Great, thanks a lot.

Now another situation - if the minion A does not play the stealth, so
combat begins. Minion B moves to long range and does no damage. Combat
ends.

Now - the minion A still have that 1 blood. Will he pay the 1 blood
for the Force of Will and thus be burned (minor fortitude, 2
aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second burns him) or
will he keep the 1 blood and thus stay in torpor with no blood (minor
fortitude, 2 aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second
takes the last blood)?

Thanks.

David

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> "Amberan" <ambe...@gmail.com> schreef in berichtnews:864de02f-f20c-4644...@k10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

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LSJ

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Aug 16, 2010, 7:55:22 AM8/16/10

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On Aug 16, 7:52 am, Amberan <ambe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great, thanks a lot.
>
> Now another situation - if the minion A does not play the stealth, so
> combat begins. Minion B moves to long range and does no damage. Combat
> ends.
>
> Now - the minion A still have that 1 blood. Will he pay the 1 blood
> for the Force of Will

No. It was blocked.

> and thus be burned (minor fortitude, 2
> aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second burns him) or
> will he keep the 1 blood and thus stay in torpor with no blood (minor
> fortitude, 2 aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second
> takes the last blood)?

The latter: he doesn't pay for the blocked action.

Amberan

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Aug 16, 2010, 8:30:15 AM8/16/10

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OK, thanks again.

Amberan

Jozxyqk

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Aug 16, 2010, 8:41:19 AM8/16/10

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Amberan <amb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great, thanks a lot.

> Now another situation - if the minion A does not play the stealth, so
> combat begins. Minion B moves to long range and does no damage. Combat
> ends.

> Now - the minion A still have that 1 blood. Will he pay the 1 blood
> for the Force of Will and thus be burned (minor fortitude, 2
> aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second burns him) or
> will he keep the 1 blood and thus stay in torpor with no blood (minor
> fortitude, 2 aggravated damage, first sends him to torpor, second
> takes the last blood)?

The action was unsuccessful, so the cost wasn't paid.
He keeps his blood, and takes 2 agg damage, so he's in torpor empty.