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Ethan Burrow

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May 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/8/98
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This came up last weekend in a game, and we were unsure of the timing...

A famed vampire with fortitude bleeds his prey. His grandprey has 3
pool. The famed vampire plays Daring the Dawn and sufficient action
modifiers to oust his prey, then goes torpor. Does his Grandprey get
ousted as well in the same action resulting in 2 VP's and 12 pool for
the famed vampire's controller? Or does fame affect the prey (it's a
question of timing for the fame effect).

We played it the double ousted way, but it felt real wrong...and I'm
sure it's because of fame.

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Legbiter

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May 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/11/98
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In article <1d8q0jf.1o4igil1nlndeaN@[192.168.0.2]>, et...@ddg.com (Ethan
Burrow) wrote:

IAMNLSJ, but I think this was wrong. I think you decide whether or not
someone is ousted at the end of any action. The action by this vampire
does not end until he goes to torpor. So right up to that point, your prey
remains the same. But of course I could be wrong, as you rightly point out
it is all about timing. I'd be interested to know if my answer is right.

LSJ

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May 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/11/98
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Ethan Burrow wrote:
> A famed vampire with fortitude bleeds his prey. His grandprey has 3
> pool. The famed vampire plays Daring the Dawn and sufficient action
> modifiers to oust his prey, then goes torpor. Does his Grandprey get
> ousted as well in the same action resulting in 2 VP's and 12 pool for
> the famed vampire's controller? Or does fame affect the prey (it's a
> question of timing for the fame effect).
>
> We played it the double ousted way, but it felt real wrong...and I'm
> sure it's because of fame.

You played it correctly. The acting vampire doesn't go to torpor until
after the action is complete (card text on Daring the Dawn), which is
after his original prey has been ousted (and his controller getting
a VP and 6 pool). Then, when he goes to torpor, his current prey (the
old grandprey) takes a three pool loss to the Fame and is ousted (so
his controller gets another VP and 6 more pool).

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L. Scott Johnson (vte...@wizards.com)
Official VtES Net.Rep for Wizards of the Coast.
(*) - Subject to review by Rules Team

Richard Mosse

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May 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/11/98
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why does this sort of thing NEVER happen to me?

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