Help with Brujah deck
dasei...@hotmail.com
am experienced with so please, get stuck in. Basic idea is to bloat
down with Grooming / Fourth Trads, so I don’t have to rush back much,
then pound my prey into the dirt (getting blood back with Taste) and
presence bleed for the oust. The deck did manage a game win in my
weekly social cards night yesterday but I think that had a lot to do
with my predator’s swimming backstream against his Tzim wall predator,
and my getting out a Heart of Cheating (which is often pretty much
like pressing a “win game” button in my experience).
The anarch converts are there because:
- I don’t have enough of the new KoT vamps to make a proper crypt
- They speed up the crypt cards I do have (when I make the small
Brujah anarch)
- They’re nearly always useful just to influence out as a vampire to
run around causing trouble.
Deck Name : Brujah Bash
Author : Leon Tranter
Description :
Brujah princes with support from smaller buddies rush, bleed and
block.
Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 4.66667
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2x Karen Suadela 7 CEL POT obf pre prince Brujah:5
2x Tara 6 POT PRE cel prince Brujah:5
2x Paul Calderone 4 cel pot pre Brujah:5
2x Lynn Thompson 3 cel pot Brujah:5
2x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
1x Carlak 8 CEL PRE dom pot prince Brujah:5
1x Tomaine 6 CEL POT PRE primogen Brujah:4
Library (89 cards)
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Action [19]
3x Ambush
3x Bum's Rush
5x Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
3x Harass
5x Public Trust
Combat [47]
2x Flash
12x Immortal Grapple
4x Pursuit
3x Sideslip
8x Slam
9x Taste of Vitae
7x Torn Signpost
2x Undead Strength
Equipment [1]
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Master [15]
1x Blood Doll
1x Direct Intervention
1x Dummy Corporation
2x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
3x Grooming the Protege
1x Guardian Angel
2x Haven Uncovered
2x Vessel
1x Wash
Reaction [7]
7x Second Tradition: Domain
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. (Fri Feb 13 12:47:50 2009)
The Lasombra
>Deck Name : Brujah Bash
>Author : Leon Tranter
>Description :
>Brujah princes with support from smaller buddies rush, bleed and
>block.
>Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 4.66667
>------------------------------------------------------------
>2x Karen Suadela 7 CEL POT obf pre prince Brujah:5
>2x Tara 6 POT PRE cel prince Brujah:5
>2x Paul Calderone 4 cel pot pre Brujah:5
>2x Lynn Thompson 3 cel pot Brujah:5
>2x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
>1x Carlak 8 CEL PRE dom pot prince Brujah:5
>1x Tomaine 6 CEL POT PRE primogen Brujah:4
Dmitra Ilyanova is pretty amazing, she would love to appear in your
deck. Jann Berger works well as her backup. Both give you a little
fortitude for Kiss of Ra defense.
>Library (89 cards)
>------------------------------------------------------------
89?
>Action [19]
> 3x Ambush
> 3x Bum's Rush
> 5x Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
> 3x Harass
> 5x Public Trust
Perpetual Care, perhaps? Heroic Might? Judgment: Camarilla
Segregation (if you drop the ACs)?
>Combat [47]
> 2x Flash
> 12x Immortal Grapple
> 4x Pursuit
> 3x Sideslip
> 8x Slam
> 9x Taste of Vitae
> 7x Torn Signpost
> 2x Undead Strength
I'm not a fan of mixing Slam and Undead Strength. I'd drop the US and
replace with two other cards.
>Equipment [1]
> 1x Heart of Nizchetus
>Master [15]
> 1x Blood Doll
Carthage Remembered?
> 1x Direct Intervention
> 1x Dummy Corporation
> 2x Fame
> 1x Giant's Blood
> 3x Grooming the Protege
> 1x Guardian Angel
> 2x Haven Uncovered
New Carthage?
pallando
Looks solid. Imho Pursuit is a lot better than Flash. As the Lasombra
pointed out, Undead Strength doesn't work very well with your Slams.
Replace these 4 cards with 4 x Pursuit! The flexibility will come in
handy!
If you see Rotschreck occasionally you could think about replacing a
few Immortal Grapple with Psyche!
Kind regards,
Marcus
Jay Kristoff
> Action [19]
> 3x Ambush
> 3x Bum's Rush
> 5x Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
> 3x Harass
> 5x Public Trust
I would replace some of the rush actions with the political action
Archon.
Jay
brandons...@yahoo.com
I would think that at least 1x Brujah Justicar would be good. The
converts aren't doing much for you, since 6 of the other 10 vampires
are titled. A couple Resist the Earth's grasp for flexability (and
stealth at cel).
XZealot
Dump half rushes for Fleetness. Add Parity Shift and Iron Glare to
mix
> Combat [47]
> 2x Flash
> 12x Immortal Grapple
> 4x Pursuit
> 3x Sideslip
> 8x Slam
> 9x Taste of Vitae
> 7x Torn Signpost
> 2x Undead Strength
I would seriously consider either Pursuit or Resist the Earth's Grasp
as replacements for Flash
Peter D Bakija
> Author : Leon Tranter
> Description :
> Brujah princes with support from smaller buddies rush, bleed and
> block.
>
> Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 1 max: 8 average: 4.66667
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2x Karen Suadela 7 CEL POT obf pre prince Brujah:5
> 2x Tara 6 POT PRE cel prince Brujah:5
> 2x Paul Calderone 4 cel pot pre Brujah:5
> 2x Lynn Thompson 3 cel pot Brujah:5
> 2x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
> 1x Carlak 8 CEL PRE dom pot prince Brujah:5
> 1x Tomaine 6 CEL POT PRE primogen Brujah:4
I'm unconvinced that the Anarch Converts are worth using here. I'd go
with an extra each of Tomaine and maybe Tara.
> Library (89 cards)
For a reason? Go 90.
> Action [19]
> 3x Ambush
> 3x Bum's Rush
> 5x Fourth Tradition: The Accounting
> 3x Harass
> 5x Public Trust
You can probably skim out a couple Rush actions for more 2nd
Traditions, which are likely your best way to get into fights. And you
should, at the very least, have a few Parity Shifts in here (unless
you don't have any...). The Public Trusts could become a few Iron
Glares if you get some votes in there (as they also let you bleed for
3)
> Combat [47]
> 2x Flash
> 12x Immortal Grapple
> 4x Pursuit
> 3x Sideslip
> 8x Slam
> 9x Taste of Vitae
> 7x Torn Signpost
> 2x Undead Strength
Contrary to most other comments, I'd keep the Flash, as you have a
significant amount of cel (like half the crypt), and Flash is great if
you have cel. Turn the two Undead Strengths into Torn Signposts.
> Equipment [1]
> 1x Heart of Nizchetus
>
> Master [15]
> 1x Blood Doll
> 1x Direct Intervention
> 1x Dummy Corporation
> 2x Fame
> 1x Giant's Blood
> 3x Grooming the Protege
> 1x Guardian Angel
> 2x Haven Uncovered
> 2x Vessel
> 1x Wash
Probably too many masters. Dummy Corp can probably go. Maybe one of
the Haven Uncovereds. 3x Grooming the Protege are kind of sketchy in
the deck, as you generally want them kind of early, and three isn't
enough for that.
> Reaction [7]
> 7x Second Tradition: Domain
8 or 9 is probably better.
As noted, a few Parity Shifts or Con Boons will help. Maybe an Archon.
-Peter
Vincent Crisafulli
I made a very similar deck with the G4/G5 princes. My deck is less fighty
and more votey, but I've gotten 2 GWs out of the four times I've played it.
Hope this helps.
Deck Name: Brujah Princes 2008
Created By: Vincent A. Crisafulli
Description: This is a Brujah Prince deck made with Keepers of Tradition
minions.
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 15, Max: 37, Avg: 6.5)
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1 Carlak dom pot CEL PRE 8 Brujah
1 Clifton Derrik cel 2 Brujah
1 DeSalle CEL POT PRE 7 Brujah Antitribu
(+ stealth!!)
1 Dmitra Ilyanova obf CEL FOR POT PRE.9 Brujah
2 Jann Berger dem for CEL POT PRE10 Brujah
1 Karen Suadela pre obf POT CEL pre obf7 Brujah
1 Lynn Thompson cel pot 3 Brujah
1 Paul Calderone cel pot pre 4 Brujah
1 Tara cel POT PRE 6 Brujah
2 Tomaine CEL POT PRE 6 Brujah
Library: (80 cards)
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Master (15 cards)
1 Archon Investigation
4 Ascendance
2 Major Boon
1 Misdirection
1 Papillon
1 Powerbase: Montreal
1 Society of Leopold
4 Vessel
Action (6 cards)
2 Fleetness
4 Harass
Action Modifier (5 cards)
5 Iron Glare
Political Action (10 cards)
1 Brujah Justicar
1 Justicar Retribution
8 Kine Resources Contested
Reaction (10 cards)
2 Minor Irritation
8 Second Tradition: Domain, The
Combat (26 cards)
5 Immortal Grapple
8 Sideslip
3 Taste of Vitae
10 Torn Signpost
Equipment (1 cards)
1 Ivory Bow
Combo (7 cards)
7 Resist Earth`s Grasp
This deck was last saved at 7:34:08 PM on 12/14/2008
Peter D Bakija
"Vincent Crisafulli" <vac...@netcarrier.com> wrote:
> Library: (80 cards)
> -------------------
> Master (15 cards)
> 1 Archon Investigation
> 4 Ascendance
> 2 Major Boon
> 1 Misdirection
> 1 Papillon
> 1 Powerbase: Montreal
> 1 Society of Leopold
> 4 Vessel
Is the Ascendance actually helping here? They might as well be Life in
the Cities. And why Society of Leopold? To burn people you beat up?
Seems risky.
> Political Action (10 cards)
> 1 Brujah Justicar
> 1 Justicar Retribution
> 8 Kine Resources Contested
Has the Justicar Retribution ever paid off? It is mostly only good to
kill Inner Circle members, who usually have enough votes to foil it.
Peter D Bakija
pd...@lightlink.com
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/vtes.html
"It's too bad she won't live! But then again, who does?"
-Gaff
Vincent Crisafulli
"Peter D Bakija" <pd...@lightlink.com> wrote in message
news:pdb6-8EE929.1...@feeder.motzarella.org...
> In article <4996c796$0$2718$ad36...@news.netcarrier.com>,
> "Vincent Crisafulli" <vac...@netcarrier.com> wrote:
>
>> Library: (80 cards)
>> -------------------
>> Master (15 cards)
>> 1 Archon Investigation
>> 4 Ascendance
>> 2 Major Boon
>> 1 Misdirection
>> 1 Papillon
>> 1 Powerbase: Montreal
>> 1 Society of Leopold
>> 4 Vessel
>
> Is the Ascendance actually helping here? They might as well be Life in
> the Cities. And why Society of Leopold? To burn people you beat up?
> Seems risky.
I was trying to play Ascendance to offset the cost of Vessel. I do find
that gaining a little pool with Ascendance is useful, especially late in the
game, but Blood Doll or Minion Tap is probably better.
My local playgroup has some DOM addicts who don't keep much (or any blood)
on their minions. I usually get a good chance to play Society on a bloodless
vampire.
>
>> Political Action (10 cards)
>> 1 Brujah Justicar
>> 1 Justicar Retribution
>> 8 Kine Resources Contested
>
> Has the Justicar Retribution ever paid off? It is mostly only good to
> kill Inner Circle members, who usually have enough votes to foil it.
>
No. You're right. It hasn't paid off at all. I see alot of ICs in my local
playgroup. Fear of Mehket is probably way better.
Peter D Bakija
wrote:
> I was trying to play Ascendance to offset the cost of Vessel. I do find
> that gaining a little pool with Ascendance is useful, especially late in the
> game, but Blood Doll or Minion Tap is probably better.
Life in the City is generally going to do the same thing that
Ascendance is with the Vessels, and are also trifles. But then, with
the bigish vampires, maybe Minion Tap or Villein is the way to go.
> My local playgroup has some DOM addicts who don't keep much (or any blood)
> on their minions. I usually get a good chance to play Society on a bloodless
> vampire.
Fair enough.
> No. You're right. It hasn't paid off at all. I see alot of ICs in my local
> playgroup. Fear of Mehket is probably way better.
Or Parity Shift. Can you get some of those?
-Peter
Juggernaut1981
You also look like you've got a number of cheap vamps in there...
maybe a Con Boon or the "gain a pool for each minion you control"
votes unless your metagame sees a few "breed-like-rabbits" decks
around. Other tried-and-true options for a "vote which isn't in there
to win with but there to be useful sometime" include:
Disputed Territory (I use it to give something useful of my predator
to someone who will have no use for it or to my prey... don't try to
steal HGs unless you have votelock guaranteed)
Banishment
Reinforcements
(Another Con Boon?)