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WOL DannyX

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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This has prolly already been asked many times, but since I haven't seen
any of the answers, I will ask again :) Can superioir bonding be used to
give the stealth bonus to a non-bleed action, like a vote action or such?
It has been argued to death in my group from both perspective, so I wanted
to get the right answer.

Thank You
Danny

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The Corrupter

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Nov 27, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/27/95
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In article <49e3kv$9...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, wold...@aol.com (WOL
DannyX) wrote:

> This has prolly already been asked many times, but since I haven't seen
> any of the answers, I will ask again :) Can superioir bonding be used to
> give the stealth bonus to a non-bleed action, like a vote action or such?
> It has been argued to death in my group from both perspective, so I wanted
> to get the right answer.

Unfortunately, no. I made this mistake for some time before I was
corrected. If someone can give me the rationale (I always believed you
could use _part_ of a card in Jyhad), I would appreciate it. Much thanks.

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James R. McClure Jr.

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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wold...@aol.com (WOL DannyX) said:
>This has prolly already been asked many times, but since I haven't seen
>any of the answers, I will ask again :) Can superioir bonding be used to
>give the stealth bonus to a non-bleed action, like a vote action or such?
>It has been argued to death in my group from both perspective, so I wanted
>to get the right answer.

Peace Danny,

No, Bonding (inferior or superior) may only be used as an action modifier
for a Bleed action.

Nil carborundum illigitimi,

James R. McClure Jr.
The OS/2 Apostle

<insert disclaimer here>

WOL DannyX

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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Thank you James for such prompt response, but alas I beg you for another
boon, can you or anyone else direct me toward somewhere official where
this rulling was made (if such thing exist), not to say that I doubt your
word, but my group isn't as trusting as I am. :)

L. Scott Johnson

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Nov 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/28/95
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In article <49ffn5$k...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,

WOL DannyX <wold...@aol.com> wrote:
>Thank you James for such prompt response, but alas I beg you for another
>boon, can you or anyone else direct me toward somewhere official where
>this rulling was made (if such thing exist), not to say that I doubt your
>word, but my group isn't as trusting as I am. :)
>

Certainly:
(The complete text of this rules summary is available on my web site:
http://www.math.sc.edu/~sjohnson/jyhad/DTR.html).

From: aa...@hal.COM (Tom Wylie)
Newsgroups: rec.games.deckmaster
Subject: NEW: Rulings summary for Jyhad
Date: 9 Nov 1994 13:11:24 -0800
Message-ID: <39rdts$s...@perv.hal.COM>

You cannot play a modifier which doesn't match the action being modified.
For example, you can only use Bonding during a bleed.

[...]

Bonding:
The superior version cannot be used to increase the stealth of a
non-bleed action; action modifiers which modify/replace bleed may
only be used on bleed actions.

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L. Scott Johnson

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Nov 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM11/30/95
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The Corrupter <sull...@cslab.uwlax.edu> writes:
>In article <49e3kv$9...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, wold...@aol.com (WOL
>DannyX) wrote:

>> This has prolly already been asked many times, but since I haven't seen
>> any of the answers, I will ask again :) Can superioir bonding be used to
>> give the stealth bonus to a non-bleed action, like a vote action or such?
>> It has been argued to death in my group from both perspective, so I wanted
>> to get the right answer.

>Unfortunately, no. I made this mistake for some time before I was

>corrected. If someone can give me the rationale (I always believed you
>could use _part_ of a card in Jyhad), I would appreciate it. Much thanks.

Rationale: It is a bleed modifier, with a side effect of increased stealth.

Except that: you may not use the superior version unless you *need* the
side effect.

Cards which may be used to partial effect:

Anarch Troublemaker - may tap one or two minions

Brujah Frenzy - can be used to block an action even if combat is impossible
due to the target Brujah being in torpor (attempting self-rescue, or
whatever). In this case, the action will be blocked, but no combat will
occur.


Cards which cannot be used for partial effect:

Bonding - Must use the bleed enhancer - no adding stealth to non-bleed
actions.

Brujah Frenzy - even though the taget victim is not the blocking minion
(the action is simply blocked), BF may not block the action unless there
is a suitable (untapped, ready, opposing) minion to not block the action.
That is, you might think that a Brujah could easily go into a frenzy
even if no one was around, but that is not the case.

The Second Tradition - Domain
You must have a P/J who is *both* tapped and in need of intercept to
play the card. An untapped Prince may not gain intercept with 2nd Trad,
nor may a tapped Prince untap with 2nd. Trad if the acting minion is
not at +X stealth.
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