Abbot question

Eric

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Sep 17, 2009, 5:42:34 AM9/17/09

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If an Abbot gives a Sabbat vampire "+1 intercept against (D) actions
directed at his or her controller" does this include actions directed
against anything that the controller controls such as vampires,
locations, and equipment.

This came up in a game.

Oortje

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Sep 17, 2009, 6:04:31 AM9/17/09

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Nope. Just cards that target player not their cards.

floppyzedolfin

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Sep 17, 2009, 6:14:05 AM9/17/09

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Yes. You would get +1 intercept against a Bum's Rush on one of your
minions, or on an Arson targetting your Parthenon. Any action that
targets a card controlled by a Methuselah also targets that
Methuselah.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/0dbe5666ac64922e

Oortje

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Sep 17, 2009, 6:54:24 AM9/17/09

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Ok? So why the strange wording? LSJ? Could you give a short
explenation. (but a little longer then just: Yes, No or Correct)

LSJ

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Sep 17, 2009, 7:58:23 AM9/17/09

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Oortje wrote:
> Ok? So why the strange wording? LSJ? Could you give a short
> explenation. (but a little longer then just: Yes, No or Correct)

The wording is not strange.

Anything that targets something a Methuselah controls targets that Methuselah.

bwross

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Sep 17, 2009, 1:26:53 PM9/17/09

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On Sep 17, 6:54 am, Oortje <internetoor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Ok? So why the strange wording? LSJ? Could you give a short
> explenation. (but a little longer then just: Yes, No or Correct)

The +1 intercept wouldn't apply to (D) actions that are targetting
another player, but you're blocking via Eagle/Falcon Eye.

Brent Ross

Izaak

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Sep 17, 2009, 6:39:33 PM9/17/09

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> The +1 intercept wouldn't apply to (D) actions that are targetting
> another player, but you're blocking via Eagle/Falcon Eye.

Not trying to nitpick or anything, but if that was is indeed the reason the
(D) action part might as well not be there.

Or there must be undirected actions that target a Methusalah that I'm
unaware of.

Juggernaut1981

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Sep 17, 2009, 10:48:41 PM9/17/09

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Any action which targets something controlled by another player is a
(D) action. LSJ has said so before.

There is a hierarchy of targets. Methuselah is at the top and if you
target anything "lower" you are also targeting the Methuselah.

If you target a Retainer/Equipment, you target the Methuselah (but not
necessarily the Minion with the Retainer).
If you target a Location, you target the Methuselah (but not a Minion,
Retainer etc. e.g. Burning Secure Haven)
If you target a Player's Pool, you target the Methuselah.

If you call a Political Action, you take an undirected action that
will affect other Methuselahs. e.g. KRC is not directed but it
affects Methuselahs.

Salem

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Sep 18, 2009, 6:11:42 AM9/18/09

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Political Actions sometimes will only affect one methuselah. If the card
didn't include the (D) part, then people would be on this news group
asking if the Abbot will give them intercept against those Political
Actions, instead.

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salem
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