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FC

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Aug 8, 2006, 11:28:21 AM8/8/06
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Hi! I got two questions that came up during our play

1. Anima Gathering

Suppose A vampire that has played anima gathering is banished.

Will influencing the banished vampire out again put it into play tapped
or untapped? If untapped will the Anima Gathering be burned as a result?


Anima Gathering
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Auspex
+1 stealth action.
[aus] Put this card on this acting vampire and choose another minion you
control. Burn this card if this minion untaps. During your untap phase,
you may choose not to untap this minion as normal. The chosen minion
gets +2 intercept.
[AUS] As above, and the chosen minion also gets +1 bleed.

Banishment
Cardtype: Political Action
Political Card -- Worth 1 Vote. Called by any vampire at +1 stealth.
Choose a younger ready vampire. Successful referendum means that the
chosen vampire is moved to the uncontrolled region (breaking any
temporary control effects). The vampire is uncontrolled. Any cards and
counters on that vampire stay with him or her (but they are out of play
as long as the vampire remains uncontrolled).


2. Strike with Conviction

Suppose an imbued declares a +1 bleed for burning Strike with
Conviction. If the bleed is blocked does the strike with conviction
still have to be burned (i.e. does it work like govern the unaligned
where the blood cost is only paid on a succesful action)?

Strike with Conviction
Cardtype: Conviction
Burn to make a hand or weapon strike against a monster at +1 damage.
Burn to bleed at +1 bleed as a (D) action.

Hope you can help

Regards
Frederik

LSJ

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Aug 8, 2006, 12:47:24 PM8/8/06
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FC wrote:
> 1. Anima Gathering
>
> Suppose A vampire that has played anima gathering is banished.
>
> Will influencing the banished vampire out again put it into play tapped
> or untapped? If untapped will the Anima Gathering be burned as a result?

Untapped. Burned.

> 2. Strike with Conviction
>
> Suppose an imbued declares a +1 bleed for burning Strike with
> Conviction. If the bleed is blocked does the strike with conviction
> still have to be burned (i.e. does it work like govern the unaligned
> where the blood cost is only paid on a succesful action)?

No. (i.e., yes)

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/2a2221a228811358

Joshua Duffin

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Aug 8, 2006, 2:17:33 PM8/8/06
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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
news:1155055644.7...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

> FC wrote:
>> 1. Anima Gathering
>>
>> Suppose A vampire that has played anima gathering is banished.
>>
>> Will influencing the banished vampire out again put it into play tapped
>> or untapped? If untapped will the Anima Gathering be burned as a result?
>
> Untapped. Burned.

Burning the Anima Gathering via Banishment seems to contradict your answer
to the same kind of question on February 13:

groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/18d0f1c044603dda

Josh Feuerstein's logic in that thread, that the vampire doesn't "untap" by
being Banished but does enter play untapped, seemed reasonable to me...


Josh

an other josh


LSJ

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Aug 8, 2006, 2:33:35 PM8/8/06
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Quite right.

Untapped. Not Burned.

Is the correct answer.

Sorry about that.

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