[LSJ] Derange question

[Jyhad_addict]

LSJ some years ago, wrote:

Attempting to move it to vampire X would be playing it on vampire X.
It cannot be moved to a vampire that card text prevents it from being
played on.
See also Master: Discipline cards

So, to clarify some things:

Does this mean that when you move it to a non Malk-!MAlk vampire,
the vampire must also be younger ?
Up to now, i thought that you needed an older vampire only to
initialy play it and then Deranged vampires could also move it to
older vampires.
What is the correct ? the former or the latter ?

If the deranged vampire has no blood, then he cannot untap. Derange's
template is like "may burn 1 blood to do something", the deranged
vampire cannot simply fail to burn 1 blood and untap. i am quite sure
about this, but i'd like a verification.

And finaly a Mind Rape question:

I mind rape a vampire, then at my next minion phase i take control
of that vampire, i use that vampire to mind rape another vampire (vamp
B).
So, will vamp B come to my control or to his permanent controller
control ?

I believe that the "...During the acting vampire's controller's next
minion phase, he or she must burn this card to untap the vampire and
take control of the vampire until the end of his or her turn." is
checked when the action succeeds, so that means that vamp B will come
under my control, as when the Mind Rape was played the acting minion
was under my control, right ?

George

[LSJ]

"Jyhad_addict" <geo...@for.auth.gr> wrote in message
news:c6a50f81.04120...@posting.google.com...

> LSJ some years ago, wrote:
>
> Attempting to move it to vampire X would be playing it on vampire X.
> It cannot be moved to a vampire that card text prevents it from being
> played on.
> See also Master: Discipline cards
>
>
> So, to clarify some things:
>
> Does this mean that when you move it to a non Malk-!MAlk vampire,
> the vampire must also be younger ?

What "it"?

If you refer to Derange, then
Google: "derange moved younger author:LSJ"

> If the deranged vampire has no blood, then he cannot untap. Derange's
> template is like "may burn 1 blood to do something", the deranged
> vampire cannot simply fail to burn 1 blood and untap. i am quite sure
> about this, but i'd like a verification.

Correct.

> And finaly a Mind Rape question:
>
> I mind rape a vampire, then at my next minion phase i take control
> of that vampire, i use that vampire to mind rape another vampire (vamp
> B).
> So, will vamp B come to my control or to his permanent controller
> control ?
>
> I believe that the "...During the acting vampire's controller's next
> minion phase, he or she must burn this card to untap the vampire and
> take control of the vampire until the end of his or her turn." is
> checked when the action succeeds, so that means that vamp B will come
> under my control, as when the Mind Rape was played the acting minion
> was under my control, right ?

No. During A's next minion phase, his or her controller takes control
of B.

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