Regarding the voting down of Multiple Anarch Revolts with

[LSJ]

On VTES-L, "Eric J. Liu" <el...@EMAIL.CSUN.EDU> wrote:
> On Tue 10 Feb 1998, LSJ wrote:
> >> Also, if 2 anarch revolts are in play by the same Methuselah and a
> >>vbampire
> >> controlled by another methusealh calls a vote to burn one and is
> >>foiled by a
> >> delaying tactics, can another vampire take a vote to burn THE OTHER anarch
> >> revolt or is this considered the same vote?
> >
> >I would think so, but given the ruling on actions to attack Haven Uncovered
> >vampires, I'll have to check with the RT.
>
>
> From the third definition of "Same Action" in the Rulings Feb98,it sounds
> as if the action of the second vamp to burn a different Anarch Revolt
> should be legal. The third definition says that "the same action provided
> by the same copy of a card in play" constitutes a "same action."
>
> In this case, the action taken by the second vampire is provided by a
> different copy of a card in play. Right? (trying to keep it positive! =] )

Right, which is why I'm sending it to the RT. It certainly seems to
be the same vote (which is prohibited by Delaying Tactics).

> Additionally, in the second definition of "Same Type of Action," it would
> appear that the "type" of an action (when not defined in the rulebook) is
> "a type unique to the _instance_ of the card in play that granted the
> ability to take the action" (emphasis mine). Does that then mean that
> the two actions in question (vamp A calls a vote to kill Anarch Revolt A,
> followed by vamp B calling a vote to kill Anarch Revolt B) are not only
> "different actions" (as opposed to "same actions") but are also different
> types of action? I suppose that this is not the case since the notion of a
> "political" action type is defined in the rulebook. But....

You suppose correctly. Since the action type is defined in the rules,
it is that action type.

> So confusing.
>
> In any case, what is this Haven Uncovered ruling to which you refer? I
> cannot seem to find anything in the guiding texts about it aside from
> prohibitions against attacking vampires in torpor....

What you've found - the terminology of "same action" and "same type
of action". Two Havens in play provide two distinct actions which
are two different action types. So, even with DCI No Repeat Actions,
the same minion could use two different Havens (even if they're
on the same vampire) to attack on a single turn.

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