Temptation of Greater Power and other auction cards
ira...@gmail.com
What is the auction mechanic that should be used in Temptation of
Greater Power?
I searched but couldn't find anything definitive, other than Josh's
recent question (and your answer) that players can outbid themselves.
I'm guessing it's just a free for all auction that ends when no one
wants to bid higher. If two players want to bid the same amount, are
ties resolved in clockwise order, starting with the current player?
Thanks,
Ira
Name: Temptation of Greater Power
[Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R]
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 3 pool
Master. Requires a ready justicar.
Choose a vampire. Methuselahs may bid pool for control of that
vampire. The winning bid is paid to the blood bank. Methuselahs may be
credited up to 5 pool on the bid: winner pays 1 pool toward his or her
debt during his or her discard phase until the debt is repaid. Only 1
Temptation of Greater Power can be played in a game.
LSJ
> Hello LSJ,
>
> What is the auction mechanic that should be used in Temptation of
> Greater Power?
> I searched but couldn't find anything definitive, other than Josh's
> recent question (and your answer) that players can outbid themselves.
> I'm guessing it's just a free for all auction that ends when no one
> wants to bid higher.
Correct. No guessing needed; that is what is meant by "auction" (likewise "bid")
if no other details are given: (bidding in) a standard auction, an open
ascending price auction.
> If two players want to bid the same amount, are
> ties resolved in clockwise order, starting with the current player?
No. Standard auction. Each bid must be higher than the previous.
Ben Swainbank
> ira...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hello LSJ,
>
> > What is the auction mechanic that should be used in Temptation of
> > Greater Power?
> > If two players want to bid the same amount, are
> > ties resolved in clockwise order, starting with the current player?
>
> No. Standard auction. Each bid must be higher than the previous.
>
Hunh. So, whoever says it first get's the bid? In case of controversy,
I suppose a Judge is called to resolve ties?
Does the player who played the card get to decide when bidding begins?
"Bidding-starts-now-I-bid-4". I suppose you would want a Judge for
that part too (if there was controversy).
But, this means there is some slapjack in V:tes.
-Ben Swainbank
witness1
> On Jul 1, 3:41 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>
> > ira...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Hello LSJ,
>
> > > What is the auction mechanic that should be used in Temptation of
> > > Greater Power?
> > > If two players want to bid the same amount, are
> > > ties resolved in clockwise order, starting with the current player?
>
> > No. Standard auction. Each bid must be higher than the previous.
>
> Hunh. So, whoever says it first get's the bid? In case of controversy,
> I suppose a Judge is called to resolve ties?
Looks like it.
> Does the player who played the card get to decide when bidding begins?
> "Bidding-starts-now-I-bid-4". I suppose you would want a Judge for
> that part too (if there was controversy).
The bidding would presumably start as soon as the card resolves, after
everyone passes the Sudden Reversal step.
Which probably means that I'm cheating when I announce "my master
phase action is to bid X on soandso with card Y".
> But, this means there is some slapjack in V:tes.
Indeed.
-witness1
LSJ
> On Jul 1, 3:41 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>> No. Standard auction. Each bid must be higher than the previous.
>
> Hunh. So, whoever says it first get's the bid?
Yes. [LSJ 04-JAN-1999]
> In case of controversy,
> I suppose a Judge is called to resolve ties?
If the players cannot agree, sure.
> Does the player who played the card get to decide when bidding begins?
The player who played it causes bidding to begin (by playing it), sure.
> "Bidding-starts-now-I-bid-4". I suppose you would want a Judge for
> that part too (if there was controversy).
Hard to see how there could be any controversy there.
The player playing the card will often have some idea as the reason for playing
it, and will have decided on a bid amount before playing it (or will have
decided not to make the first bid), so will often offer that opening bid upon
declaring the effect.
> But, this means there is some slapjack in V:tes.
Uh. Sure.
Blooded Sand
> Ben Swainbank wrote:
> > But, this means there is some slapjack in V:tes.
>
> Uh. Sure.
What's slapjack?
Salem
it's what you do when you're alone.
(I'm guessing maybe it's the card game I've heard called "Snap", which
uses normal playing cards. each person gets an equal sized random chunk
of deck, and puts them down face up, one at a time. if you see two of
the same kind down you slap your hand on it and yell 'snap' to win the
round).
--
salem
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LSJ
It's similar. Deal out the whole deck to give each player a "deck". Players take
turn flipping a card from the top of their decks face up to the center pile.
When ever a Jack is flipped, first hand on top of it takes the pile, shuffles
it, and puts it on the bottom of his or her deck.
Anyway, the idea is the same -- there's a "free-for-all" period in which the
fastest hand (or tongue in the case of snap) gets the advantage.
But it's not quite the same. Slap Jack and Snap are "twitchy" games. An auction
requires some modicum of higher thought process.
Salem
[temptation of greater power]
> But it's not quite the same. Slap Jack and Snap are "twitchy" games. An
> auction requires some modicum of higher thought process.
Higher thought, huh? Not on tuesday night, when Jon at 4 pool bid 9 for
his own Ian Forestal (uh...) and then his predator (Michael), who'd
played the Temptation of Greater Power, immediately bid 10....(UH....).
Then my prey went and bid 11, got him (as his only untapped minion), and
I ousted him with a Seduction.
Crazy game.