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New Brujah Deck Thoughts/Suggestions

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RoddPrime

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Mar 9, 2010, 12:22:01 PM3/9/10
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I just built this deck and have not had a chance to play test it yet,
but I wanted to get some opinions about the set-up. Do you think this
will run smoothly? Are there any cards I should take out or new cards
to add that I haven't thought of? Thanks for your thoughts!

Deck Name : New Brujah


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 9 average: 7.33333
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4x Dmitra Ilyanova 9 CEL FOR POT PRE obf justicar Brujah:5
2x Carlak 8 CEL PRE dom pot prince Brujah:5
2x Karen Suadela 7 CEL POT obf pre prince Brujah:5
2x Tara 6 POT PRE cel prince Brujah:5
1x Tomaine 6 CEL POT PRE primogen Brujah:4
1x Reginald Moore 4 PRE primogen Brujah:4


Library [87 cards]
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Action [13]
8x Enchant Kindred
2x Flurry of Action
2x Heart of the City
1x Legal Manipulations

Action Modifier [28]
1x Aire of Elation
3x Bewitching Oration
2x Faceless Night
6x Forced March
5x Iron Glare
2x Lost in Crowds
2x Perfect Paragon
7x Voter Captivation

Ally [1]
1x Impundulu

Combat [18]
18x Majesty

Equipment [3]
1x Helicopter
1x Ivory Bow
1x Sengir Dagger

Master [10]
1x Barrens, The
1x Carthage Remembered
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Information Highway
4x Minion Tap
1x New Carthage
1x Papillon

Political Action [14]
1x Ancient Influence
1x Consanguineous Boon
1x Domain Challenge
8x Kine Resources Contested
1x Neonate Breach
2x Parity Shift


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Mar 09 12:18:30 2010]

brandonsantacruz

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Mar 9, 2010, 1:12:38 PM3/9/10
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> 4x Dmitra Ilyanova     9  CEL FOR POT PRE obf  justicar Brujah:5
> 2x Carlak              8  CEL PRE dom pot      prince   Brujah:5
> 2x Karen Suadela       7  CEL POT obf pre      prince   Brujah:5
> 2x Tara                6  POT PRE cel          prince   Brujah:5
> 1x Tomaine             6  CEL POT PRE          primogen Brujah:4
> 1x Reginald Moore      4  PRE                  primogen Brujah:4

Pretty standard crypt, not particularly focused on out of clan
fortitude, 6 have obfuscate.

> Library [87 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [13]
>   8x Enchant Kindred
>   2x Flurry of Action
>   2x Heart of the City
>   1x Legal Manipulations

Flurry of Action might be better if you had some combat or more
stealth to go with it. Legal Manipulations isn't as good as Heart of
the City, you need permanents.

> Action Modifier [28]
>   1x Aire of Elation
>   3x Bewitching Oration
>   2x Faceless Night
>   6x Forced March
>   5x Iron Glare
>   2x Lost in Crowds
>   2x Perfect Paragon
>   7x Voter Captivation

It is so annoying that Karen and Carlak are missing either POT or PRE
for Iron Glare. I'd drop Aire and Bewitching in favor of Awe/Scalpel
Tongue. You don't have OBF, so your obfuscate stealth cards could all
be different. This may be a case where Into Thin Air is better than
Lost in Crowds.

> Ally [1]
>   1x Impundulu

This should be cut, it doesn't help you enough.

> Combat [18]
>   18x Majesty

Too many Majesties. I see where you're going with it, trying to out-
action your prey. I would suggest some hit-back in case you have to
deal with some no secrets monkey, Imbued, or a weenie-ish wall deck.
Torn Signpost + Acrobatics is pretty good. Your combat can be cut
wayyyyyy back if you use Alastor.

> Equipment [3]
>   1x Helicopter
>   1x Ivory Bow
>   1x Sengir Dagger

Sengir Dagger? How about AK-47 or Assault Rifle instead?

> Master [10]
>   1x Barrens, The
>   1x Carthage Remembered
>   1x Dreams of the Sphinx
>   1x Information Highway
>   4x Minion Tap
>   1x New Carthage
>   1x Papillon

You don't need Papillon, you have plenty of blood gain between Dmitra
and Voter Cap. -4 Minion Taps, +4 Villein. Find space for 2 more
Villeins and/or some blood dolls/Vessels. Your minions cost a lot and
provide no bounce. You could potentially use Elysium: Palace of
Versailles, but New Carthage is just so good. Probably more Info
Highway would be a good call.

> Political Action [14]
>   1x Ancient Influence
>   1x Consanguineous Boon
>   1x Domain Challenge
>   8x Kine Resources Contested
>   1x Neonate Breach
>   2x Parity Shift

Anarchist Uprising > Domain Challenge in my experience it's hard to
blow up a table the way Anarchist Uprising does. You need more Parity
Shifts and at least 2 Alastors.

You REALLY need some 2nd traditions in here. What if your pred/prey
tries to equip with their Bowl of Convergence? You're screwed!

Hope that helps, just basing my judgement on what I've seen work
effectively before.

Brandon

brandonsantacruz

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Mar 9, 2010, 1:44:00 PM3/9/10
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And of course don't forget Resist the Earth's Grasp!

RoddPrime

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Mar 9, 2010, 2:20:59 PM3/9/10
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On Mar 9, 1:44 pm, brandonsantacruz <brandonsantac...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> And of course don't forget Resist the Earth's Grasp!

Those are all worthy suggestions. I'll see what I can do about
getting those changes made. Thanks again!

Klaital

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Mar 9, 2010, 3:03:45 PM3/9/10
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I would add a second new carthage, and at least 4 more carthage
remembered (its non-unique and stacks). also I would take out Reginald
for Jann Berger.Then I would replace the minion taps with grooming the
protege to speed up bringing guys up, and also up the number to around
7 at least.

Gerentt

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Mar 9, 2010, 8:08:52 PM3/9/10
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Typed up this whole long list of ideas, came back and realized most of
the better ones are already mentioned. Here's my take, reiterated
points are there for emphasis.

On Mar 9, 9:22 am, RoddPrime <roddpr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just built this deck and have not had a chance to play test it yet,
> but I wanted to get some opinions about the set-up.  Do you think this
> will run smoothly?  Are there any cards I should take out or new cards
> to add that I haven't thought of?  Thanks for your thoughts!
>
> Deck Name : New Brujah
>
> Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 9 average: 7.33333
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 4x Dmitra Ilyanova     9  CEL FOR POT PRE obf  justicar Brujah:5
> 2x Carlak              8  CEL PRE dom pot      prince   Brujah:5
> 2x Karen Suadela       7  CEL POT obf pre      prince   Brujah:5
> 2x Tara                6  POT PRE cel          prince   Brujah:5
> 1x Tomaine             6  CEL POT PRE          primogen Brujah:4
> 1x Reginald Moore      4  PRE                  primogen Brujah:4

Dmitra is really your key minion here; I'd keep her as the highest cap
vampire. Jann Berger's POT special isn't useful to you and Adana de
Sforza could be included if OBF is used more in the deck. Carlak is a
little expensive for me but its up to you. Karen will need either a
Disc. Presence or a couple of Blood Dolls/Vessels to be an optimal
voter.

>
> Library [87 cards]
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Action [13]
>   8x Enchant Kindred
>   2x Flurry of Action
>   2x Heart of the City
>   1x Legal Manipulations
>

Flurry of Action triggers only on a successful bleed; drop them.

> Action Modifier [28]
>   1x Aire of Elation
>   3x Bewitching Oration
>   2x Faceless Night
>   6x Forced March
>   5x Iron Glare
>   2x Lost in Crowds
>   2x Perfect Paragon
>   7x Voter Captivation

Into thin air is better than Lost in Crowds at inferior obf. Trade the
Bewitching Orations for more Perfect Paragons (more versatility with
pseudo-stealth) or Scalpel Tongue.

>
> Ally [1]
>   1x Impundulu
>

Agreed, its doesn't jive with your strat.

> Combat [18]
>   18x Majesty
>

If you want to multi-act, i'd suggest more playable modifiers like
Aire instead of action cards. Bleed first then vote. Resist tEG is
useful against IG.

> Equipment [3]
>   1x Helicopter
>   1x Ivory Bow
>   1x Sengir Dagger
>
> Master [10]
>   1x Barrens, The
>   1x Carthage Remembered
>   1x Dreams of the Sphinx
>   1x Information Highway
>   4x Minion Tap
>   1x New Carthage
>   1x Papillon

1 or 2 more New Carthage is essential. Drop the Info Highway for
Grooming. Consider exchanging Minion Taps for Vessels. Drop Papillon.
X more Carthage Remembered (1<X<4) if you're going the bleeding route.

>
> Political Action [14]
>   1x Ancient Influence
>   1x Consanguineous Boon
>   1x Domain Challenge
>   8x Kine Resources Contested
>   1x Neonate Breach
>   2x Parity Shift
>

Lower the KRCs, increase the Parity Shifts. Alastor out your equipment
(note that Alastor-ed Helicopter comes into play untapped, and can be
used immediately.)

> Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Tue Mar 09 12:18:30 2010]

As it stands, the deck appears to be a Ventru-esque bleed/vote deck
with very little For and a bit of Obf. Heavy on the Presence (bleed,
vote push and multi-act). Pot is barely utilized (in Iron Glare), and
Cel usage isn't optimized. Don't want to cramp your style or anything,
but perhaps you could consider a more bruise-y approach (with Heroic
Might/Preternatural Strengths, IG and Resist tEG). Alternatively
Alastor out M-16s like what Brandon mentioned. And no reaction cards
whatsoever? This crypt screams for 2nd traditions. And/or Scobax for
bleed reduction.

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