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[LSJ] Multiple Baltimore Purges

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jazzbeaux

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Oct 22, 2002, 4:21:20 AM10/22/02
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I am confused about the timing of the Purges, we had a deck using Madness
Network, to call multiple purges in other players turns - fair enough. Then
it gets to the player calling all the purges untap phase, there was two
purges that had been called by the same vampire, how does this resolve.
I would think resolve one purge start to finish, i.e. various vampires go to
torpor including the caller, thus the second purge surely cannot kick off as
vampire is in torpor.
Help,
Sam.


Miller Delmardigan

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Oct 22, 2002, 6:19:54 AM10/22/02
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"jazzbeaux" <sam....@renelec.co.uk> a écrit dans le message de news:
ap31q0$njp$1...@venus.btinternet.com...

A Baltimore Purge card doesn't kick off as the Vampire bearing the card
enters torpor, it kicks off when the Baltimore Purge burns, the Vampire
bearing it being in torpor or not.

> Help,
> Sam.
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jazzbeaux

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Oct 22, 2002, 6:47:40 AM10/22/02
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> A Baltimore Purge card doesn't kick off as the Vampire bearing the card
> enters torpor, it kicks off when the Baltimore Purge burns, the Vampire
> bearing it being in torpor or not.

True, the purge burns, but the effect is

Balimore Purge: Action Requires a ready vampire. If this vampire is
Ravnos, this action is at +1 stealth. Put this card on the acting vampire.
During your untap phase, burn this card, and each other Methuselah chooses a
ready vampire he or she controls who is not older than this vampire. If you
control a ready Lasombra, you choose the vampires instead. This vampire and
the chosen vampires go to torpor.

What I am asking, and I know you can choose the order of things in untap, is
shouldn't the Purge be one complete action, start to finish, rather than
Burn Purge A, choose vampires, Burn Purge B, choose vampires, then vampires
go to torpor. Because it has been mentioned that if the Purging vampire is
already in torpor - before untap phase, it will not work, but it works if
vampire is in torpor in untap phase?
Sam
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> > Sam.
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James Coupe

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Oct 22, 2002, 7:23:06 AM10/22/02
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In message <ap3acb$4l4$1...@venus.btinternet.com>, jazzbeaux

<sam....@renelec.co.uk> writes:
>What I am asking, and I know you can choose the order of things in untap, is
>shouldn't the Purge be one complete action, start to finish, rather than
>Burn Purge A, choose vampires, Burn Purge B, choose vampires, then vampires
>go to torpor. Because it has been mentioned that if the Purging vampire is
>already in torpor - before untap phase, it will not work, but it works if
>vampire is in torpor in untap phase?

The vampire being in torpor, before or during your untap phase, does not
affect the burning of Baltimore Purge. Each of them is burned, in turn.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D9325E1.44D95A24%40white-wolf.com

You can choose the order of them being burned, but as each is burned, the
choices and torporisation effect is handled there and then, as part of
that effect.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D8DFC20.FDEF0103%40white-wolf.com

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LSJ

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Oct 22, 2002, 7:39:51 AM10/22/02
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James Coupe wrote:
>
> In message <ap3acb$4l4$1...@venus.btinternet.com>, jazzbeaux
> <sam....@renelec.co.uk> writes:
> >What I am asking, and I know you can choose the order of things in untap, is
> >shouldn't the Purge be one complete action, start to finish, rather than
> >Burn Purge A, choose vampires, Burn Purge B, choose vampires, then vampires
> >go to torpor. Because it has been mentioned that if the Purging vampire is
> >already in torpor - before untap phase, it will not work, but it works if
> >vampire is in torpor in untap phase?
>
> The vampire being in torpor, before or during your untap phase, does not
> affect the burning of Baltimore Purge. Each of them is burned, in turn.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D9325E1.44D95A24%40white-wolf.com
>
> You can choose the order of them being burned, but as each is burned, the
> choices and torporisation effect is handled there and then, as part of
> that effect.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D8DFC20.FDEF0103%40white-wolf.com

Correct.

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jazzbeaux

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Oct 22, 2002, 8:37:06 AM10/22/02
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> > The vampire being in torpor, before or during your untap phase, does not
> > affect the burning of Baltimore Purge. Each of them is burned, in turn.
> > You can choose the order of them being burned, but as each is burned,
the
> > choices and torporisation effect is handled there and then, as part of
> > that effect.

Ah ok, I've got it, just needed it clarified.
Sam

Joshua Duffin

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Oct 22, 2002, 12:13:39 PM10/22/02
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"James Coupe" <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> wrote in message
news:Rd3nJr1a...@gratiano.zephyr.org.uk...

> In message <ap3acb$4l4$1...@venus.btinternet.com>, jazzbeaux
> <sam....@renelec.co.uk> writes:
> >What I am asking, and I know you can choose the order of things in untap,
is
> >shouldn't the Purge be one complete action, start to finish, rather than
> >Burn Purge A, choose vampires, Burn Purge B, choose vampires, then
vampires
> >go to torpor. Because it has been mentioned that if the Purging vampire
is
> >already in torpor - before untap phase, it will not work, but it works if
> >vampire is in torpor in untap phase?
>
> The vampire being in torpor, before or during your untap phase, does not
> affect the burning of Baltimore Purge. Each of them is burned, in turn.
>
> You can choose the order of them being burned, but as each is burned, the
> choices and torporisation effect is handled there and then, as part of
> that effect.

Right. Don't forget, though, that if the Purging vampire was the only
Lasombra you controlled, and you have multiple Purges on it, only the
first Purge you resolve would allow you to choose the vampires (since
Baltimore Purge says "if you control a *ready* Lasombra").

(You're right, Sam, that you handle all of "burn purge A" before you go
on to handling all of "burn purge B"; you were just mistaken in thinking
that the Purge effects didn't happen if the Purging vampire was already
in torpor.)


Josh

for additional clarity... maybe

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