"Scarce" question

Jozxyqk

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Dec 16, 2001, 10:42:48 PM12/16/01

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OK.. So when a Scarce vampire comes into play from the
uncontrolled region, you pay 3 pool for every other vampire
of the same clan.

So, let's say that I'm playing Setites, and my prey
has brought out Miriam Benyona, the 5 cap Salubri.
I put Temptation on her, and take control of her a few turns
later.
While I have control of Ms. Benyona, I have her play
Clan Impersonation to Setite. Then, I Banish her.

Now, presuming my prey is dumb enough to bring her back out onto
the board, would he have to pay 3 pool for every Setite in play?

Ouch.

LSJ

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Dec 17, 2001, 6:29:08 AM12/17/01

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Yes.

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Sorrow

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Dec 17, 2001, 8:50:32 AM12/17/01

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> > Now, presuming my prey is dumb enough to bring her back out onto
> > the board, would he have to pay 3 pool for every Setite in play?
> Yes.

Nasty. Funny, but nasty.

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Reyda

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Dec 17, 2001, 8:54:04 AM12/17/01

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"LSJ" <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote in message
news:3C1DD704...@white-wolf.com...

> Jozxyqk wrote:
> >
> > OK.. So when a Scarce vampire comes into play from the
> > uncontrolled region, you pay 3 pool for every other vampire
> > of the same clan.
> >
> > So, let's say that I'm playing Setites, and my prey
> > has brought out Miriam Benyona, the 5 cap Salubri.
> > I put Temptation on her, and take control of her a few turns
> > later.
> > While I have control of Ms. Benyona, I have her play
> > Clan Impersonation to Setite. Then, I Banish her.
> >
> > Now, presuming my prey is dumb enough to bring her back out onto
> > the board, would he have to pay 3 pool for every Setite in play?
>
> Yes.

Isn't there an issue there ? Does the clan impersonation kicks in only after
she came back in play, so you have already "bypassed" the scarce cost ?

reyda

James Coupe

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Dec 17, 2001, 9:13:02 AM12/17/01

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In message <9vkte0$21q$1...@neon.noos.net>, Reyda <re...@noos.fr> writes:
>> > Now, presuming my prey is dumb enough to bring her back out onto
>> > the board, would he have to pay 3 pool for every Setite in play?
>>
>> Yes.
>
>Isn't there an issue there ? Does the clan impersonation kicks in only after
>she came back in play, so you have already "bypassed" the scarce cost ?

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3BCB56F5.68C9C0FD%40white-wolf.com

[LSJ 20011015]

If you move a "scarce" Ventrue (who's Ventrue only by the effect of a
Clan Impersonation - he's a Nagaraja in disguise, for example), from
your uncontrolled region (where he's a Nagaraja, since the CI is out of
play) to your controlled region (where he's a Ventrue, since the CI is
back in play), you ask which clan is counted, right?

Answer: the clan matching the card in play (not the uncontrolled card) -
you count Ventrue in this case.

In much the same way that extra blood won't "roll off" if you have the
Master Discipline cards to hold it.

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