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Talo...@hotmail.com

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Apr 22, 2001, 9:20:30 PM4/22/01
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Minion A plays a dodge, minion B plays a scorpion sting, what happens?

Minion A plays a maneuver from his gun to long, requiring him to use
the gun as his first strike. Minion B maneuvers close and plays
immortal grapple, requiring both minions to use hand strikes only,
what happens?

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James Coupe

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Apr 22, 2001, 9:37:32 PM4/22/01
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In message <3ae3835f.256852054@news>, Talo...@hotmail.com writes

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>Minion A plays a dodge, minion B plays a scorpion sting, what happens?

Minion A must strike (chosen a strike) but cannot strike (Scorpion
Sting).

When a minion must do something, but cannot, they do nothing.

>Minion A plays a maneuver from his gun to long, requiring him to use
>the gun as his first strike. Minion B maneuvers close and plays
>immortal grapple, requiring both minions to use hand strikes only,
>what happens?

Again, Minion A must strike (maneuver selection) but cannot strike
(Immortal Grapple) so Minion A does not strike.

This is one of the few situations where a strike of "No Strike" occurs.
(Something that cannot occur voluntarily.)

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Reyda

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Apr 22, 2001, 9:49:39 PM4/22/01
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<Talo...@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
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> Minion A plays a dodge, minion B plays a scorpion sting, what happens?

Scorpion Stings nullifies the effect of dodge. "This strike cannot be
dodged". If you want to 'think beyond the cards', it's a hand strike so
swift and accurate that the dodger is hit even if he was on his guards -
it's a strike you can't see coming like the famous tail of the scorpion.

> Minion A plays a maneuver from his gun to long, requiring him to use
> the gun as his first strike. Minion B maneuvers close and plays
> immortal grapple, requiring both minions to use hand strikes only,
> what happens?

Minion A cannot use a strike at all for his first strike in the round
because he's commited to use the gun strike -which is not allowed under
immortal grapple. The minion is caught firmly by the grappling vampire who
can strike. The grappled vampire still weilds his weapon but he can't really
use it because of his oponen'ts raging grasp. However, if the gunner is able
to play additional strikes, he can retaliate, but only with bare hands for
his further strikes.

clear enough ?
reyda

LSJ

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Apr 23, 2001, 6:44:10 AM4/23/01
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>===== Original Message From James Coupe <ja...@zephyr.org.uk> =====

>In message <3ae3835f.256852054@news>, Talo...@hotmail.com writes
>>Minion A plays a dodge, minion B plays a scorpion sting, what happens?
>
>Minion A must strike (chosen a strike) but cannot strike (Scorpion
>Sting).
>
>When a minion must do something, but cannot, they do nothing.

Correct.

>>Minion A plays a maneuver from his gun to long, requiring him to use
>>the gun as his first strike. Minion B maneuvers close and plays
>>immortal grapple, requiring both minions to use hand strikes only,
>>what happens?
>

>Again, Minion A must strike (maneuver selection) but cannot strike
>(Immortal Grapple) so Minion A does not strike.

Correct.

>This is one of the few situations where a strike of "No Strike" occurs.
>(Something that cannot occur voluntarily.)

Correct. The default strike is a hand strike. To make some other strike,
you need some other effect (like a strike card or some other card's
effect) to use.

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