Khazar Diary Muliples LSJ
Blooded Sand
Action
Giovanni
+1 stealth action.
***Put the Diary in play, or add a counter to one in play.*** When a
unique minion in play is burned, add another counter. While this card
has seven or more counters, Giovanni get [NEC] and may take a +1
stealth action to put a minion from any ash heap into play to
represent a wraith ally with 2 life, 0 strength, 1 bleed and +1
stealth.
Emphasis mine. Does this mean you can add multiple Diaries into play,
which will then have a cumulative effect?
As it states put the Diary in play OR add a counter, it implies a
choice. Nowhere does it state I may not put it inplay a second time,
and as it is not unique there is no limit to this.
If the answer to the above is yes, would this mean that multiple
Diries with 7+ counters each would give +x stealth etc to each wraith
where x is the number of 7+ counter Diaries in play?
Blooded Sand
And that heading should be Multiples... DOH!
Jozxyqk
> Khazar's Diary (Endless Night)
> Action
> Giovanni
> +1 stealth action.
> ***Put the Diary in play, or add a counter to one in play.*** When a
> unique minion in play is burned, add another counter. While this card
> has seven or more counters, Giovanni get [NEC] and may take a +1
> stealth action to put a minion from any ash heap into play to
> represent a wraith ally with 2 life, 0 strength, 1 bleed and +1
> stealth.
> Emphasis mine. Does this mean you can add multiple Diaries into play,
> which will then have a cumulative effect?
Looks like yes.
> If the answer to the above is yes, would this mean that multiple
> Diries with 7+ counters each would give +x stealth etc to each wraith
> where x is the number of 7+ counter Diaries in play?
Nothing about the card text could possibly imply this.
I'd say that the only "cumulative effect" is that a single Giovanni can
repeat the action to dig up a wraith once per Diary.
Shockwave
> I'd say that the only "cumulative effect" is that a single Giovanni can
> repeat the action to dig up a wraith once per Diary.
IANLSJ, but I'm with Jozxyqk on this. Once you have the 7 counters on
two different Diaries, you take the Action to put the Wraith into play
with those stats. Or you could take the Action to recruit the exact
same Wraith from the other Diary.
LSJ
Correct.
Blooded Sand
> Jozxyqk wrote:
However would the +1 stealth not multiply?
coincoi...@hotmail.com
>
> - Afficher le texte des messages précédents -
It says: You create a wraith ally with the following stats
not: You create a wraith ally and all wraith allies get the following
stats.
LSJ
> On 15 avr, 13:39, Blooded Sand <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 15, 1:12 pm, LSJ <vtes...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
>>> Jozxyqk wrote:
>>>> Blooded Sand <sandm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> If the answer to the above is yes, would this mean that multiple
>>>>> Diries with 7+ counters each would give +x stealth etc to each wraith
>>>>> where x is the number of 7+ counter Diaries in play?
>>>> Nothing about the card text could possibly imply this.
>>>> I'd say that the only "cumulative effect" is that a single Giovanni can
>>>> repeat the action to dig up a wraith once per Diary.
>>> Correct.
>> However would the +1 stealth not multiply?- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -
>
> not: You create a wraith ally and all wraith allies get the following
> stats.
Correct. Meaning the +1 stealth doesn't accumulate ("stack") on each wraith.
The effect is not "Wraith allies get +1 stealth".
The card lets you create a wraith with 2 life, 0 strength, 1 bleed, and +1 stealth.
You may create that wraith with Diary A or with Diary B. A wraith created by the
action provided by Diary A won't be affected by the life, strength, bleed, or
stealth that would be given to a wraith created by Diary B.
Similarly, a vampire with 2 Haven Uncovereds on him can be rushed via Haven A or
Haven B, but the rush provided by Rush A is at +1 stealth, not +2 stealth; the
stealth provided by Haven B for its action cannot be used on the rush action
provided by Haven A.
Blooded Sand
Sneaky plan #98264A3.1, foiled.
I would have got away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky kids
and their darn dog!
Orpheus
Not the exact same wraith. All wraiths are unique souls. They have an
identity.
Generalising individuals is a form of racism. Thank you to consider dead
people as people too.
Orpheus, director of the board of WAPT (Wraiths Are People Too !)
_angst_
> Shockwave wrote:
> >> Nothing about the card text could possibly imply this.
> >> I'd say that the only "cumulative effect" is that a single Giovanni
> >> can repeat the action to dig up a wraith once per Diary.
>
> > IANLSJ, but I'm with Jozxyqk on this. Once you have the 7 counters on
> > two different Diaries, you take the Action to put the Wraith into play
> > with those stats. Or you could take the Action to recruit the exact
> > same Wraith from the other Diary.
>
> Not the exact same wraith. All wraiths are unique souls. They have an
> identity.
>
All they ever need to know is that they never walk alone...
_angst_
Sorry, that was cheesy :)
I'll stop being OT now.
//Alex
Blooded Sand
Oh yes. I forgot
;)