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Jyhad_addict

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Nov 1, 2004, 4:40:48 AM11/1/04
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Does every undirected action have a default +1 stealth, even if it is
not written on the card ? like black metamorphosis, baltimore purge ?

i believe no, as by the rules all actions have a default stealth of 0,
unless noted otherwise on the card. right ?

A D action (which has a default stealth of 0) that targets a card you
control,
becomes undirected. Does this give such an action +1 stealth ? or does
it become an undirected action of 0 stealth ?

A guy supports that case, i am not sure what it is true.
This is one of the few rules of the game that we haven't verified.

What i believe, although i am not sure, is that it just becomes an
undirected action of 0 stealth. The only exception is the rescue a
vampire of yours from torpor action, which becomes undirected and get
a default +1 stealth by the rules.
I don't believe that there is a rule who says that every D action
that becomes undirected gains 1 stealth...

Daneel

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Nov 1, 2004, 5:46:41 AM11/1/04
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On 1 Nov 2004 01:40:48 -0800, Jyhad_addict <geo...@for.auth.gr> wrote:

> Does every undirected action have a default +1 stealth, even if it is
> not written on the card ? like black metamorphosis, baltimore purge ?

No.

> i believe no, as by the rules all actions have a default stealth of 0,
> unless noted otherwise on the card. right ?

Yes. If the action description does not mention stealth, it has no stealth.

> A D action (which has a default stealth of 0) that targets a card you
> control,
> becomes undirected. Does this give such an action +1 stealth ? or does
> it become an undirected action of 0 stealth ?

The latter.

> A guy supports that case, i am not sure what it is true.
> This is one of the few rules of the game that we haven't verified.
>
> What i believe, although i am not sure, is that it just becomes an
> undirected action of 0 stealth. The only exception is the rescue a
> vampire of yours from torpor action, which becomes undirected and get
> a default +1 stealth by the rules.
> I don't believe that there is a rule who says that every D action
> that becomes undirected gains 1 stealth...

Right. The examples that make people think that when a stealthless (D)
action is directed at yourself it gains +1 stealth are the inherent
vampiric actions described in the rulebook. Diablerie and Rescue Torpor
are both stealthless (D) actions when directed at someone else, and +1
stealth undirected actions when directed at the self. These are, however,
the exceptions, and not the rule.

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Bye,

Daneel

LSJ

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Nov 1, 2004, 9:10:19 AM11/1/04
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"Daneel" <dan...@eposta.hu> wrote in message
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> On 1 Nov 2004 01:40:48 -0800, Jyhad_addict <geo...@for.auth.gr> wrote:
> > Does every undirected action have a default +1 stealth, even if it is
> > not written on the card ? like black metamorphosis, baltimore purge ?
> No.
>
> > i believe no, as by the rules all actions have a default stealth of 0,
> > unless noted otherwise on the card. right ?
> Yes. If the action description does not mention stealth, it has no
stealth.

Correct.
http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/rulebook/rulebook.html#sec6_1_6

> > A D action (which has a default stealth of 0) that targets a card you
> > control,
> > becomes undirected. Does this give such an action +1 stealth ? or does
> > it become an undirected action of 0 stealth ?
>
> The latter.

Correct.

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