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Orpheus

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Jun 11, 2002, 8:01:26 PM6/11/02
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"any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0".

What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after
combat" ?
And Theft of Vitae, is it considered as damage to an ally ?

Thanks,

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reyda

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Jun 11, 2002, 10:02:00 PM6/11/02
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"Orpheus" <orph...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> "any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0".
>
> What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after
> combat" ?

burning life or blood is not damage. Therefore cards refering to those
effects aren't affected in any way by memories of mortality.

> And Theft of Vitae, is it considered as damage to an ally ?

no it's still a life/blood steal card. It doesn't deal damage to the
opposing ally. It works even under memories of mortality.

> Thanks,

de rien =)

reyda

GreySeer

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Jun 11, 2002, 10:15:20 PM6/11/02
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"Orpheus" <orph...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> "any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0".
>
> What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after
> combat" ?
> And Theft of Vitae, is it considered as damage to an ally ?

I figured that Theft and Oubliette would work ( being that they're not
damage ) but I checked, and found on Google.


>>The vampire (with Memories of Mortality) will do 0 damage to the ally.
>>Does this include environmental damage (ie Weather Control, Carrion
Crows)?
>
>No.
>
>That's part of the definition of environmental damage, damage that isn't
>inflicted by the vampire. Weather Control, Carrion Crows, and damage from
>retainers will all damage the ally in combat with a vampire even when the
>vampire is afflicted with Memories of Mortality.
>
>Notice that a vampire could also successfully use Theft of Vitae, Call the
>Lamprey, or Tongue of the Serpent even though it had MoM as blood loss is
>not damage.
>
>
>Carpe noctem.
>
>Lasombra

The Lasombra

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Jun 11, 2002, 10:22:45 PM6/11/02
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"Orpheus" asked about Memories of Mortality:

>"any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0".

>What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after
>combat" ?

This is not damage, and so is unafffected by Memories of Mortality.


>And Theft of Vitae, is it considered as damage to an ally ?

Stealing life is not damage, and is unaffected by Memories of
Mortality.


LSJ 2001-06-20
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LSJ 2001-08-20
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Carpe noctem.

Lasombra

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Orpheus

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Jun 12, 2002, 7:26:52 AM6/12/02
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> >"any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0".
>
> >What about Oubliette : "and opposing minion burns one blood or life after
> >combat" ?
>
> This is not damage, and so is unafffected by Memories of Mortality.

And what about the damage from Catatonic fear ? Is it considered as
inflicted by the opposing minion, and thus reduced to 0 ?


The Lasombra

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Jun 12, 2002, 7:41:57 AM6/12/02
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On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:26:52 +0200, "Orpheus" asked about Memories of
Mortality:

>> >"any damage the vampire inflicts one allies is reduced to 0".

The damage from Catatonic Fear is damage inflicted by a strike,
therefore it is damage from the minion, therefore it is reduced to
zero by Memories of Mortality.

LSJ

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Jun 12, 2002, 7:43:43 AM6/12/02
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Correct.


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LSJ

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Jun 12, 2002, 7:44:36 AM6/12/02
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Yes.

Brian

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Jun 12, 2002, 4:41:37 PM6/12/02
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> > And what about the damage from Catatonic fear ? Is it considered as
> > inflicted by the opposing minion, and thus reduced to 0 ?
>
> Yes.

Wait, can't you only be an "opposing minion" during combat?

And doesn't Catatonic Fear do damage after combat?

--Brian

LSJ

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Jun 12, 2002, 7:18:43 PM6/12/02
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Card text on Memories mentions neither "combat" nor "opposing".

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