LSJ : Q's
Analnatrach
get ris of one. I play deleaying tactics . Can he now still call a
vote that targets ANOTHER A.R. or not ?
2. I'm bleeding my prey, he has 8 pool left, so I use Foreshadowing
destruction at superior. Now my prey deflects to my grandprey who has
11 pool left. Does the bleed of +3 (due to F.S) stay in effect or does
it simply fizzle: meaning now i'm bleeding my grandprey for 1 ?
3. Same sort of thing as Q2 : The innate ability of some vamps if
deflected do they stay in effect : like Donal's Ability : I thought
not...
Thanks !
Steven
jeroen rombouts
"Analnatrach" <after...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 1. I have 3 Anarch Revolts in play, my prey decides to call a vote to
> get ris of one. I play deleaying tactics . Can he now still call a
> vote that targets ANOTHER A.R. or not ?
No, calling a vote is one of the basic actions in the rulebook. By NRA, he
cannot call a new vote.
>
> 2. I'm bleeding my prey, he has 8 pool left, so I use Foreshadowing
> destruction at superior. Now my prey deflects to my grandprey who has
> 11 pool left. Does the bleed of +3 (due to F.S) stay in effect or does
> it simply fizzle: meaning now i'm bleeding my grandprey for 1 ?
>
I think it fizzles.
> 3. Same sort of thing as Q2 : The innate ability of some vamps if
> deflected do they stay in effect : like Donal's Ability : I thought
> not...
>
idem
Jeroen
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Derek Ray
<jeroen....@pandora.be> wrote:
>
>"Analnatrach" <after...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> 1. I have 3 Anarch Revolts in play, my prey decides to call a vote to
>> get ris of one. I play deleaying tactics . Can he now still call a
>> vote that targets ANOTHER A.R. or not ?
>
>No, calling a vote is one of the basic actions in the rulebook. By NRA, he
>cannot call a new vote.
However, one of his OTHER minions can call a vote to burn a different
AR. Each AR has its own individual "vote" to burn. The Delaying
Tactics will prevent ANY minion from calling the vote to burn the first
one.
>> 2. I'm bleeding my prey, he has 8 pool left, so I use Foreshadowing
>> destruction at superior. Now my prey deflects to my grandprey who has
>> 11 pool left. Does the bleed of +3 (due to F.S) stay in effect or does
>> it simply fizzle: meaning now i'm bleeding my grandprey for 1 ?
>>
>I think it fizzles.
card text:
"After playing this card, you cannot play another action modifier to
further increase the bleed for this action. [dom] +1 bleed. [DOM] +3
bleed if the Methuselah you are bleeding has less than 10 pool."
The superior doesn't say "as above", and it specifies "the Methuselah
you are bleeding". Since the Methuselah you're bleeding has 11 pool, it
no longer satisfies the conditions at the level it was played; it
fizzles for a non-effect. HOWEVER, it remains played, so if your
grandprey Deflects back to your original prey with 8 pool (or anyone
else with less than 10), the +3 bleed will come back into effect.
>> 3. Same sort of thing as Q2 : The innate ability of some vamps if
>> deflected do they stay in effect : like Donal's Ability : I thought
>> not...
Donal's ability is not the best example, since his text of "Any vampire
blocking Donal" probably isn't kidding and means "any vampire". =) I
assume you actually mean Constanza; her +bleed will only kick in if the
Methuselah you are bleeding controls a ready Ventrue.
from the rulings page:
"A vampire who gets a bleed bonus if your prey controls a vampire of a
certain clan (or other sect) gets his bleed bonus if the Methuselah he
bleeds controls a vampire of that clan (or sect). [RTR 19960530]"
-- Derek
"Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." - F. Leghorn
LSJ
> >> 1. I have 3 Anarch Revolts in play, my prey decides to call a vote to
> >> get ris of one. I play deleaying tactics . Can he now still call a
> >> vote that targets ANOTHER A.R. or not ?
> >
> >No, calling a vote is one of the basic actions in the rulebook. By NRA, he
> >cannot call a new vote.
>
> However, one of his OTHER minions can call a vote to burn a different
> AR. Each AR has its own individual "vote" to burn. The Delaying
> Tactics will prevent ANY minion from calling the vote to burn the first
> one.
Correct.
>
> >> 2. I'm bleeding my prey, he has 8 pool left, so I use Foreshadowing
> >> destruction at superior. Now my prey deflects to my grandprey who has
> >> 11 pool left. Does the bleed of +3 (due to F.S) stay in effect or does
> >> it simply fizzle: meaning now i'm bleeding my grandprey for 1 ?
> >>
> >I think it fizzles.
>
> card text:
>
> "After playing this card, you cannot play another action modifier to
> further increase the bleed for this action. [dom] +1 bleed. [DOM] +3
> bleed if the Methuselah you are bleeding has less than 10 pool."
>
> The superior doesn't say "as above", and it specifies "the Methuselah
> you are bleeding". Since the Methuselah you're bleeding has 11 pool, it
> no longer satisfies the conditions at the level it was played; it
> fizzles for a non-effect. HOWEVER, it remains played, so if your
> grandprey Deflects back to your original prey with 8 pool (or anyone
> else with less than 10), the +3 bleed will come back into effect.
Right. The "+3 if pool<=10" is in effect for the remainder of the action.
> >> 3. Same sort of thing as Q2 : The innate ability of some vamps if
> >> deflected do they stay in effect : like Donal's Ability : I thought
> >> not...
>
> Donal's ability is not the best example, since his text of "Any vampire
> blocking Donal" probably isn't kidding and means "any vampire". =) I
> assume you actually mean Constanza; her +bleed will only kick in if the
> Methuselah you are bleeding controls a ready Ventrue.
>
> from the rulings page:
>
> "A vampire who gets a bleed bonus if your prey controls a vampire of a
> certain clan (or other sect) gets his bleed bonus if the Methuselah he
> bleeds controls a vampire of that clan (or sect). [RTR 19960530]"
Correct.
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