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bartok...@my-deja.com

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Oct 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/24/00
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one vamp declares an action, second blocks it, combat begins... combat
ends and both combatants remain ready... and now both fast reaction and
hidden lurker are played - which card play and resolve first? in which
way both new combats may influence each other?


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LSJ

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Oct 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/24/00
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bartok...@my-deja.com wrote:
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> one vamp declares an action, second blocks it, combat begins... combat
> ends and both combatants remain ready... and now both fast reaction and
> hidden lurker are played - which card play and resolve first? in which
> way both new combats may influence each other?

The one that is played first resolves (and precludes the other from being
played). Since the acting Methuselah gets the first chance to play,
the Hidden Lurker will be the first card played. But if the acting Meth
chooses not to play and the "defending" Methuselah then decides to play
Fast Reaction, the acting Meth cannot change her mind and attempt to
pre-empt the Fast Reaction with a Hidden Lurker.

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X_Ze...@email.msn.com

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Oct 26, 2000, 1:38:33 PM10/26/00
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In article <39F5E057...@white-wolf.com>,

LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com> wrote:
> bartok...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > one vamp declares an action, second blocks it, combat begins...
combat
> > ends and both combatants remain ready... and now both fast reaction
and
> > hidden lurker are played - which card play and resolve first? in
which
> > way both new combats may influence each other?
>
> The one that is played first resolves (and precludes the other from
being
> played). Since the acting Methuselah gets the first chance to play,
> the Hidden Lurker will be the first card played. But if the acting
Meth
> chooses not to play and the "defending" Methuselah then decides to
play
> Fast Reaction, the acting Meth cannot change her mind and attempt to
> pre-empt the Fast Reaction with a Hidden Lurker.
>

Can you play a Fast Reaction after someone plays a Hidden Lurker and
after they resolve the ensuing combat caused by the Hidden Lurker? If
so who do you enter combat with, the original acting vampire or the
hidden lurker vampire?

Comments Welcome,
Norman S. Brown Jr.
XZealot
Archon of the Swamp

Sorrow

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Oct 26, 2000, 1:58:55 PM10/26/00
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LSJ said:
> > The one that is played first resolves (and precludes the other from
> > being played).
Norm said:
> Can you play a Fast Reaction after someone plays a Hidden Lurker and
> after they resolve the ensuing combat caused by the Hidden Lurker?

Your answer is in the above sentence from LSJ.

Sorrow
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LSJ

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Oct 26, 2000, 2:30:41 PM10/26/00
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Sorrow wrote:
>
> LSJ said:
> > > The one that is played first resolves (and precludes the other from
> > > being played).
> Norm said:
> > Can you play a Fast Reaction after someone plays a Hidden Lurker and
> > after they resolve the ensuing combat caused by the Hidden Lurker?
>
> Your answer is in the above sentence from LSJ.

Correct.
The reason is that Fast Reaction can only be played after a combat
involving the acting minion and a blocking minion. The Hidden
Lurker combat doesn't involve the acting minion, so doesn't allow
Fast Reaction to be played.

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