Best Anathema decks?
librarian
What is your best Anathema deck?
I am leaning towards Tremere and their Thefting ability. G1/2 seems
better in this case with Cardano and Ulugh having for at least, and cel,
so they could Forced March/Freak too.
EuroBrujah seems good too. And they always have Dom for backup.
Nos royalty seems so strong, both literally with their Potence (most of
them have at superior), and due to the presence of ani for crows.
Toreador have the skills to help you pass the votes if you don't have
vote lock. But how well can they reduce someone to 0 blood? Cel/Guns?
Ventrue, sure they will get the vote passed. But why use them to
Anathema, when they can oust in so many better ways.
Anathema seems great on paper. What do you think?
best -
chris
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Deck Name : Mr Robin lights a candle 2007
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 10 average: 7.84
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5x Cock Robin (untaps after sucessful ANI-action)
1x Casino Reeds
1x Kendrick
1x Murat
1x Nikolaus Vermeulen
1x Sundown
1x Calebros, The Mart
1x Darva Felispa
Library [75 cards]
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3x Sense Death (rushes with untap)
3x Taunt the Caged Beast
4x Freak Drive
2x Lost in Crowds
1x Veil the Legions (still under evaluation)
4x Swallowed by the Night
1x Canine Horde (not sure about this one)
5x Carrion Crows
6x Immortal Grapple
5x Taste of Vitae
5x Terror Frenzy (key-card)
5x Torn Signpost
1x Assault Rifle (for Alastor)
1x NSA Trio
2x Dreams of the Sphinx (hand-size is important for combo-decks)
1x Labyrinth, The
2x Life in the City (for an Anathema with zero blood)
1x Storm Sewers
1x Visit from the Capuchin
2x Alastor
6x Anathema
5x Parity Shift (to survive early)
2x Cats' Guidance
4x Second Tradition: Domain
1x Murder of Crows (again, utap for Mr. Robin)
2x Raven Spy
Guess you could go to 80 cards with 1x Info Highway, 2x Zillahs
Valley, Guardian Angel and Flak Jacket.
Bram Vink
I think the main problem with anathema is the following:
To use anathema to remove a vampire and gain pool, you need to take at
least two actions, of which one usually isn't at stealth.
Also, unless you're truly in trouble, its a very difficult vote to
negotiate.
So usually you will need vote supremacy, and combat, to remove a
vampire and gain pool. Also, often you will need stealth, to be able
to combat the right target. Last but not least, if you fail, you risk
giving someone else the pool from the vampire.
Whereas, if you already have vote supremacy and are able to pass
votes, technically it'll usually be more efficient to play a
banishment and then a pool gaining vote. This way you face less risk
and complications.
I'd say nosferatu royalty, with or without beast, would be a good
option.
Tremere do not have the ability to pass votes reliably, which is
essential for anathema, which most voting decks cannot benefit from
and will be unlikely to let pass.
Toreador and Ventrue could work, if you also include alastor.
Cheers,
Bram
Blooded Sand
My fave Anathema deck is simple, efficient and brutal
Brujah debates, all the g1-2 princes doubled up, along with 2
justicars. 12 3rd traditions, 4 reinforcements, 6 anathemas. a 1 cap
with 6 str and 5 manuevers is bad, bad news.... have taken down
combat, stealth bleed and vote with this. use haven u for rush, so set
bvamp up with anathema first, then next turn HU and weenie rush...
b.ja...@gmail.com
and Jaroslav Pachec, with the assault riffle beeing the power of kill
(with superior celerity, possible use of freak drive and forced march
from both, and a lot of Psyches). For voting the best all around card
(beeing defensive and ofensive), scapel tongue. Simple and pratical.
But when it cames to raw power of usage of anathema, the best is the
one Justicar of a clan that is not camarilla based, Tegyrious.
Jyhad
Deck.
Crypt (12)
Harrod x1
Casino Reeds x2
Nikolaus Vermeulen x4
Kendrick x1
Beast x2
Calebros x1
Judah x1
A Storyline legal Crypt too if you wanna go nossies of course.
Master Cards (15)
Labyrinth x1
Storm Sewers x1
Slum HG x1
Potence x1
Animalism x3
Trophy: Domain x1
Trophy: Discipline x1
Trophy: Clan Respect x2
Trophy: HG x2
Trophy: Safe Passage x2
Actions (11)
Red List x5
Big Game x5
Tier of Souls x1
Votes (14)
Nosferatu Justicar x1
Trumped-up Charges x4
Anathema x9
Reactions (12)
Instinctive Reactions x4
Cat's Guidance x4
Rat's Warning x4
Combat (3
Drawing out the Beast x6
Pushing the Limits x2
Death of My Conscience x2
Torn Signpost x2
Carrion Crows x6
Undead Strength x6
Increased Strenth x8
Immortal Grapple x6
The Lasombra
<auct...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
>What is your best Anathema deck?
Approximately 100 decks that mention Anathema, here:
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/msearch?query=anathema
A few of them are discussing the Anathema starter though.
I believe a Ventrue Anathema with a rushing Salubri would do wonders
for a trick Anathema deck. See below:
Deck Name : Matthias acts on his inner anger
Author : The Lasombra
Description :
The Camarilla princes have enlisted the help of Matthias to
permanently remove the Anathema that surround them. Originally
designed in response to a challenge by Chris Shorb on May 12th 2007,
the deck has yet to see play. Bring out a prince and Matthias. Call
Anathema and then rush that vampire when they are on 3 or less blood
and Matthias will make the Anathema pop after revealing his Vitae
Block. The bulk of the defense will fall to the princes, using Second
Tradition. Get a prince on a Sport Bike to block those three stealth
actions that are becoming more common. The trophies and Tension in
the Ranks will help the longevity of the deck as well.
Crypt [13 vampires] Capacity min: 7 max: 8 average: 7.24
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4x Matthias 7 AUS FOR OBE nec Salubri:2
2x Emerson Bridges 8 DOM FOR PRE pot prince Ventrue:1
2x Nikolaus Vermeulen 7 POT ani for obf prince Nosferatu:2
2x Sir Walter Nash 7 DOM FOR PRE prince Ventrue:1
2x Timothy Crowley 7 FOR PRE ani dom prince Ventrue:1
1x Selma the Repugnant 8 OBF POT ani for prince Nosferatu:1
Library [90 cards]
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Action [7]
1x Ambush
1x Big Game
1x Bum's Rush
2x Enrage
1x Harass
1x Nose of the Hound
Action Modifier [18]
2x Awe
2x Bewitching Oration
7x Freak Drive
2x Repulsion
1x Veil the Legions
4x Voter Captivation
Combat [23]
5x Majesty
3x Skin of Rock
3x Skin of Steel
4x Soak
8x Vitae Block
Equipment [1]
1x Sport Bike
Master [20]
3x Haven Uncovered
4x Life in the City
4x Minion Tap
1x Parthenon, The
1x Sight Beyond Sight
2x Tension in the Ranks
1x Trophy: Clan Respect
1x Trophy: Discipline
1x Trophy: Domain
1x Trophy: Hunting Ground
1x Ventrue Headquarters
Political Action [11]
5x Anathema
4x Kine Resources Contested
2x Parity Shift
Reaction [10]
10x Second Tradition: Domain
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sun May 13 12:54:06 2007]
The Lasombra
<TheLa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:45:31 -0700, librarian
><auct...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
>
>>What is your best Anathema deck?
>
>Approximately 100 decks that mention Anathema, here:
>
>http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/msearch?query=anathema
>
>A few of them are discussing the Anathema starter though.
>
>
>I believe a Ventrue Anathema with a rushing Salubri would do wonders
>for a trick Anathema deck. See below:
>
>
>Deck Name : Matthias acts on his inner anger
>Author : The Lasombra
Of course, the Trophy tech doesn't work without some way to make the
Anathemad vampires red list.
Tossed trhe Trophy cards and replaced.
Deck Name : Matthias acts on his inner anger
Author : The Lasombra
Description :
The Camarilla princes have enlisted the help of Matthias to
permanently remove the Anathema that surround them. Originally
designed in response to a challenge by Chris Shorb on May 12th 2007,
the deck has yet to see play. Bring out a prince and Matthias. Call
Anathema and then rush that vampire when they are on 3 or less blood
and Matthias will make the Anathema pop after revealing his Vitae
Block. The bulk of the defense will fall to the princes, using Second
Tradition. Get a prince on a Sport Bike to block those three stealth
actions that are becoming more common. The Tension in the Ranks will
Master [19]
1x Depravity
1x Giant's Blood
3x Haven Uncovered
4x Life in the City
4x Minion Tap
1x Parthenon, The
1x Sight Beyond Sight
2x Tension in the Ranks
1x Ventrue Headquarters
1x Wall Street Night, Financial Newspaper
Political Action [11]
5x Anathema
4x Kine Resources Contested
2x Parity Shift
Reaction [10]
10x Second Tradition: Domain
Retainer [1]
1x Mr. Winthrop
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sun May 13 15:03:00 2007]
Janne Hägglund
> Deck Name : Matthias acts on his inner anger
> Author : The Lasombra
> Description :
> The Camarilla princes have enlisted the help of Matthias to
> permanently remove the Anathema that surround them. Originally
> designed in response to a challenge by Chris Shorb on May 12th 2007,
> the deck has yet to see play. Bring out a prince and Matthias. Call
> Anathema and then rush that vampire when they are on 3 or less blood
> and Matthias will make the Anathema pop after revealing his Vitae
> Block.
I suddendly had a vision of Lernean with Infernal Pact (granting her Obeah)
burning Anathemas. Vitae Block, Psyche!, Vitae Block,... Or Vitae Block,
Theft, burn blood for an additional strike, Theft,...
Probably not viable, because Anathema would require a prince or a justicar as
well, but fun to contemplate.
HG
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iki.fi there is no point in being an artist at all." -Hakim Bey
The Lasombra
Hägglund) wrote:
>I suddendly had a vision of Lernean with Infernal Pact (granting her Obeah)
>burning Anathemas. Vitae Block, Psyche!, Vitae Block,... Or Vitae Block,
>Theft, burn blood for an additional strike, Theft,...
>Probably not viable, because Anathema would require a prince or a justicar as
>well, but fun to contemplate.
Deck Name : The House of Tremere Reunites to burn the Anathema
Author : The Lasombra
Description :
Written to help fulfill Janne Hägglund's dreams of Lernean burning
Anathema'd vampires.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 10 average: 8.17
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3x Lucas Halton 10 AUS CEL DOM THA qui prince Tremere:3
3x Anastasz di Zagreb 8 AUS THA ani cel dom justicar Tremere:3
2x Lernean 10 AUS CEL DOM THA for pro cardinal !Tremere:4
1x Eric Kressida 8 AUS DOM PRO THA cel bishop !Tremere:4
1x Terrell Harding 7 AUS THA cel dom obf !Tremere:3
1x Kyoko Shinsegawa 5 aus cel dom for Tremere:3
1x Mosfair 4 cel dom tha !Tremere:4
Library [90 cards]
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Action [11]
1x Ambush
1x Bum's Rush
5x Govern the Unaligned
1x Harass
2x Magic of the Smith
1x Nose of the Hound
Combat [32]
3x Blur
7x Psyche!
10x Theft of Vitae
6x Vitae Block
6x Weather Control
Equipment [5]
1x Ankara Citadel, Turkey, The
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Ruins of Ceoris
1x Sport Bike
1x Sword of Nuln
Master [18]
4x Haven Uncovered
1x Infernal Pact
2x Legendary Vampire
4x Life in the City
5x Minion Tap
1x Spontaneous Power
1x Tension in the Ranks
Political Action [6]
6x Anathema
Reaction [16]
7x Deflection
2x Forced Awakening
2x On the Qui Vive
5x Second Tradition: Domain
Retainer [2]
1x Infernal Familiar
1x Mr. Winthrop
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Sun May 13 16:16:12 2007]
Janne Hägglund
> On 13 May 2007 22:29:05 +0300, h...@iki.fi.remove.these.invalid (Janne
> Hägglund) wrote:
>
> >I suddendly had a vision of Lernean with Infernal Pact (granting her Obeah)
> >burning Anathemas. Vitae Block, Psyche!, Vitae Block,... Or Vitae Block,
> >Theft, burn blood for an additional strike, Theft,...
>
> >Probably not viable, because Anathema would require a prince or a justicar as
> >well, but fun to contemplate.
>
> Deck Name : The House of Tremere Reunites to burn the Anathema
> Author : The Lasombra
> Description :
> Written to help fulfill Janne Hägglund's dreams of Lernean burning
> Anathema'd vampires.
Wow, that was quick. Thanks!
HG
(I'm still on a self-imposed deck-building ban, until I've completed my
degree.)
librarian
> On Sun, 13 May 2007 12:55:28 -0400, The Lasombra
> <TheLa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:45:31 -0700, librarian
>> <auct...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is your best Anathema deck?
>> Approximately 100 decks that mention Anathema, here:
>>
>> http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/msearch?query=anathema
>>
>> A few of them are discussing the Anathema starter though.
>>
>>
>> I believe a Ventrue Anathema with a rushing Salubri would do wonders
>> for a trick Anathema deck. See below:
>>
>>
>> Deck Name : Matthias acts on his inner anger
>> Author : The Lasombra
>
> Of course, the Trophy tech doesn't work without some way to make the
> Anathemad vampires red list.
>
> Tossed trhe Trophy cards and replaced.
>
> Deck Name : Matthias acts on his inner anger
> Author : The Lasombra
> Description :
> The Camarilla princes have enlisted the help of Matthias to
> permanently remove the Anathema that surround them. Originally
> designed in response to a challenge by Chris Shorb on May 12th 2007
I didn't even realize I was issuing a "challenge"!
Jeff, your deck by far is the most original. I think I am going to
actually build it and see how it goes!
Blooded Sand
Author : Blooded Sand
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 10 average: 7.5
------------------------------------------------------------
3x Constanza Vinti 8 CEL DOM POT prince Brujah:
2
3x Dónal O'Connor 8 CEL DOM POT prince Brujah:
2
2x Don Cruez, The Ide 10 CEL POT PRE ani dom pro justicar Brujah:
1
2x Rake 6 PRE aus cel pot prince Brujah:
1
2x Volker, The Puppet 5 CEL pot prince Brujah:
2
Library [88 cards]
------------------------------------------------------------
Action [22]
4x Fifth Tradition: Hospitality
6x Govern the Unaligned
12x Third Tradition: Progeny
Combat [12]
6x Immortal Grapple
6x Taste of Vitae
Master [26]
4x Blood Doll
8x Brujah Debate
6x Haven Uncovered
2x Information Highway
2x Parthenon, The
4x Zillah's Valley
Political Action [18]
8x Anathema
4x Consanguineous Boon
4x Reinforcements
2x Rumors of Gehenna
Reaction [10]
4x Deflection
2x On the Qui Vive
4x Second Tradition: Domain
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Mon May 14 00:49:38 2007]
The Lasombra
wrote:
>Library [88 cards]
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Master [26]
> 4x Blood Doll
> 8x Brujah Debate
> 6x Haven Uncovered
> 2x Information Highway
> 2x Parthenon, The
> 4x Zillah's Valley
>Political Action [18]
> 2x Rumors of Gehenna
Have you considered an Anthelios or two to help cycle the excess
unique masters for those that went into play and are now in your ash
heap?
If you do manage the three master phase actions per turn, it will
definitely help to cycle your hand at the beginning of the turn.
The Lasombra
<auct...@superfuncards.com> wrote:
>I didn't even realize I was issuing a "challenge"!
Sure, but I chose to treat it that way.
:>
I remember having an Anathema deck, with Nos princes and Beast, that
Nikki used to play. I don't appear to have any record of its exact
contents though. You may have experienced it while she was playing
with the LA/Torrance groups.
Carpe noctem.
Lasombra
malcol...@gmail.com
> On Sun, 13 May 2007 15:46:08 -0700, librarian
>
> >I didn't even realize I was issuing a "challenge"!
>
> Sure, but I chose to treat it that way.
>
> :>
>
> I remember having an Anathema deck, with Nos princes and Beast, that
> Nikki used to play. I don't appear to have any record of its exact
> contents though. You may have experienced it while she was playing
> with the LA/Torrance groups.
>
> Carpe noctem.
>
> Lasombra
>
> http://www.TheLasombra.com/decks.htm
I've recently been working on an obea anathema deck. Only tested it
in a small tourney so far. It runs Saulot as the main playe, for a
couple of reasons:
1. He has access to both obeah and Thaum, making him ideal for
bringing vampires down to zero regardless of damage prevention(in
fact, he can burn 8 blood un-dodgeably via, block, telepathic
tracking, blood to water).
2. His govern ability is ridiculously good throughout the whole game,
allowing me to get Lucinde Alastor for effectively 6 pool, and later,
acting as a double blood doll for bloating.
I was originally running very heavy on thaum and Obeah, but I'm now
testing out running stuff like Vampiric Disease and Society of
Leopold, and young bloods to soften people up, so they'll be burned
right away when vitae block hits. Sorry I don't have access to my
deck list at the moment... but thoughts on the two approaches might be
nice. Oh yeah, the crypt = 6 saulot, 4 lucinde, and 2 of that Ventrue
prince who has inferior thaum and a press.
J
Alastor/Anathema with Assault Rifles. Did ok. The IC members had the
inbuilt bleed to go forward, as did Anneke after the prey's minions
were all burnt or torpored. Could be shut down by early rush, or some
heavy quick bleeds. But it did do itself justice in the only
tournament it was played in, making 2nd (not played by me). In the
first game it had weenie presence undue influence bleed and easily
outpaced it, gaining something like 80 pool in that game alone from
bloat.
Don't have the decklist anymore though.
--> J
grail_pbem "at" hotmail.com
Oko
and smaller princes. Worked surprisingly well, due to the hotness that
is Thinblood+Pursuit for 6 damage, 2 of which completely
unpreventable. Rushes were quite easy to generate via master contracts
and Nose of the hounds.
Could NOT work spectacularily well, due to the unhotness of the
mergingmechanics and lack of stealth. +1 stealth political actions
with a few votes does not a stable deck make.
There was also a similar concept around Aziz, which worked much
better. Made 2nd in a ~20 player tournament as I recall, but that was
more votes, less fight. A few rushes via contracts and a couple
Anathema's. Basic PRE/OBF crypt sprinkled with Cel for additional
combatness and a few Thinbloods.
Could generate reliable stealth both for votes and rushes, and
reliable votes to pass the Anathemas.
And, when you pulled it off, you combo'd an additional vote for Aziz.
What could go wrong, really? ;)
I like the Matthias idea, but feel that Alastor decks are also very
very viable what with having an easy delivery method handy.
Blooded Sand
> On 13 May 2007 15:51:24 -0700, Blooded Sand <sandm...@gmail.com>
Anthelios sounds good, but there are only 2 unique masters. however
quite often find myself holding excess BD's, so good idea. thanks
jarkko...@hotmail.com
Restricted Vitae could help in Anathema decks.
-Toss in Nossies + Enviromental damage or Tremere with Weather
Controls +Thefts (+Telep. Trackings ofcourse)
Someone told me about this crazy(?) combo, suites well in Anathema
deck (pulls off ...maybe never)
Rebecca (PRE THA AUS pot +1stealth) Majesty, Telep. Tracking, Blood
to Water +accessories
But yeap, restricted vitae might help
Ector
lot!
The only thing I can add that sometimes you may play Anathema NOT to
gain pool, but to control the table. You may save your rush predator
against his S&B predator with just one card: the grandpredator loses a
vampire, the predator gains some pool.
Here's my deck for the "challenge". Note that it doesn't have rush at
all: Anneke can block the vampire with Anathema. Or you may just
control the table with it.
Deck Name: Anneke Anathema
Created By: Ector
Description: Anneke + Anson, Alastor + Anathema
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 10, Max: 40, Avg: 6,83)
----------------------------------------------
4 Anneke dom AUS CEL PRE 10 Toreador
4 Anson aus dom CEL PRE 8 Toreador
1 Delilah Easton pre 2 Toreador
1 Dieter Kleist aus 2 Toreador
1 Colin Flynn aus cel 3 Toreador
1 Isabel de Leon AUS 3 Toreador
Library: (90 cards)
-------------------
Master (20 cards)
5 Toreador Grand Ball
3 Dreams of the Sphinx
2 Minion Tap
1 Temptation of Greater Power
1 Rack, The
1 Art Museum
1 Society Hunting Ground
1 Millicent Smith, Puritan Vampire Hunter
1 Powerbase: Rome
2 Zillah`s Valley
1 Powerbase: Montreal
1 Direct Intervention
Action Modifier (7 cards)
4 Voter Captivation
3 Awe
Political Action (16 cards)
2 Parity Shift
6 Alastor
1 Ancient Influence
1 Political Stranglehold
5 Anathema
1 Reversal of Fortunes
Reaction (20 cards)
12 Second Tradition: Domain, The
5 Telepathic Misdirection
2 Quicken Sight
1 My Enemy`s Enemy
Combat (20 cards)
5 Pursuit
6 Psyche!
5 Side Strike
4 Acrobatics
Ally (1 cards)
1 Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
Equipment (5 cards)
2 Assault Rifle
1 Bowl of Convergence
1 Sargon Fragment, The
1 Heart of Nizchetus
Event (1 cards)
1 Anthelios, the Red Star
Yours,
Ector
malcol...@gmail.com
Yeeah, I'm trying restricted vitae atm, I'll see how it goes.
As for Blood to water... I'd say at least a couple are a must if
you're running people with even inferior thaum. Its nice for burning
the anathema... and its even nicer against the Imbued/War ghoul decks
that anathema is useless against.