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LSJ

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Apr 9, 2004, 3:30:02 PM4/9/04
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We're set to begin the card exchange for the 3 cards swapped out of
the Black Hand set. See http://www.white-wolf.com/vtes/Exchange.html
for details.

Here're the stats on Hannibal:

Hannibal
Advanced
Malkavian antitribu
cel dom AUS DEM OBF
10
Group 2
Advanced, Sabbat cardinal: Once during each Methuselah's minion phase,
Hannibal may burn 2 blood to untap.

The release date for these 3 is today.
They become legal 30 days from today (May 9).

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Alex Limos

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Apr 9, 2004, 6:54:51 PM4/9/04
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How long will it take, upon reciept of the misprinted cards, for the
replacement cards to get to us.

LSJ

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Apr 9, 2004, 7:13:55 PM4/9/04
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Alex Limos wrote:
> How long will it take, upon reciept of the misprinted cards, for the
> replacement cards to get to us.

Approximately as long as it took for them to get to me in the first
place. That is, postal time.

The turn around time at this end is negligible.

salem

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Apr 9, 2004, 9:41:45 PM4/9/04
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:13:55 GMT, LSJ <vte...@white-wolf.com>
scrawled:

>Alex Limos wrote:
>> How long will it take, upon reciept of the misprinted cards, for the
>> replacement cards to get to us.
>
>Approximately as long as it took for them to get to me in the first
>place. That is, postal time.
>
>The turn around time at this end is negligible.

You say that now, but just wait until 500 envelopes land on your desk
one morning......
or fill up your PO box, or whatever....

good luck with it. :)

and just to check, the vampires being received in exchange are also
going to be appearing as part of the promo vamp pool for future
tourney prize kits, right? or is that just Hannibal?

salem
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(replace "hotmail" with "yahoo" to email)

John P.

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Apr 9, 2004, 10:34:26 PM4/9/04
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Is there any chance that at say Gencon this exchange could be
done in person if there are supplies remaining at that time? (like
at WW's booth or something?)

Figuring out how many international reply coupons to
send could be challenging. I guess though that in person
would be a pain in the behind for WW staff.

-JTP

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LSJ

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Apr 10, 2004, 7:05:05 AM4/10/04
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John P. wrote:
> Is there any chance that at say Gencon this exchange could be
> done in person if there are supplies remaining at that time? (like
> at WW's booth or something?)

They're in tournament support packs as well, so we should have some
for tournament support at Gen*Con (no exchange necessary).

ChickLewis

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Apr 11, 2004, 12:11:22 AM4/11/04
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Well, I'm confused by this. I find both Jessica and Jessica advanced in the
Black Hand !Tor deck. Could somebody give us a primer on this "printer's
error" issue, and what the exchange offer is meant to accomplish? Very
interseted and ready to send cards and SASE.


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Halcyan 2

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Apr 11, 2004, 12:52:30 AM4/11/04
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>Well, I'm confused by this. I find both Jessica and Jessica advanced in the
>Black Hand !Tor deck. Could somebody give us a primer on this "printer's
>error" issue, and what the exchange offer is meant to accomplish? Very
>interseted and ready to send cards and SASE.


It is true that both versions of Jessica are available in the !Toreador
starter. The mixup is that the Advanced Jessica was supposed to be in the
boosters (not the basic version). The Advanced Jessica was not supposed to be
hard to get.

Halcyan 2

John P.

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Apr 11, 2004, 2:25:55 AM4/11/04
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I know it was not a printing error, but any chance we could get
Goratrix (non-advanced) as a possible future exchange? :)

-JTP


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FC

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Apr 14, 2004, 6:59:06 AM4/14/04
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Is the Yung-Song replacement stat-wise identical to the Sabbat version?

I haven't seen errata for him an I think I would rather keep my advanced
copy than trade for something i have in a bundle.

Thanks
FC

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wolflord

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Apr 16, 2004, 6:44:12 AM4/16/04
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> The release date for these 3 is today.
> They become legal 30 days from today (May 9).

Er..I could understand for Hanibal (adv), but as the other 2 are
available in the starters, why aren't Jessica(adv) and Yong Sun(adv)
tournament legal already?

Just trying to avoid some confusion..

Thanks,
Jo

Jozxyqk

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Apr 16, 2004, 9:21:49 AM4/16/04
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Because they probably have a special (or no) expansion symbol on them,
and it's VEKN policy that "new printing of an old card" still counts as a new
card for purposes of playability in tournaments.

So, the Black Hand printing of Jessica-ADV would be legal in tournaments now,
but the Exchanged version of her would not.

wolflord

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Apr 20, 2004, 7:58:44 AM4/20/04
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Jozxyqk <jfeu...@eecs.tufts.edu> wrote in message news:<N5Rfc.144686$gA5.1757118@attbi_s03>...


Err..And that makes sense in *what* way? Now you're saying that people
who bought the preconstructed decks get to play with their copies of
these cards, whereas the ones that were unlucky due to a printing
mistake don't.Not really fair IMHO, as the ones who got the Black Hand
Jessica instead of the Black Hand (ADV) Jessica, and who bought their
cards on exactly the same day are at a disadvantage.Even worse for the
ones whose copies of Jessica (ADV) are on their way over ..

How are you going to justify that to your players?

Realising this will probably not make WW change their opinion, but the
small change that Jessica (ADV) is either legal or she's not,
regardless of how they got it, would solve the matter

Just my 0.5EUrocents
Jo

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